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Re: AMEC Economy Run III August 23rd
Mike, I am good to go. A co-worker has shown interest but has not committed. If it works out, he'll be on a Yamaha cruiser or older Honda sport bike, both carburated.
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Re: AMEC Economy Run III August 23rd
Now a Honda insight from Buffalo is on it's way. Heavy four seat Prius's are one thing, but a tiny two seat Honda Insight will take down a Prius in short order. The diesels are in touble now too. 
Big numbers are on the horizon folks......
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Re: AMEC Economy Run III August 23rd
Ernie, There's an article on Ecomodder regarding hypermiling a Ninja 250 just like yours. He changed the final drive just like are about to do. I think that you will find it interesting. Check it out here. He lays it all out from his 71 mpg baseline all the way up to his 101 mpg hypermiling techniques. The blueprint is there for you Ernie. You could be the top dog this August!
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Mike, thanks for the link. He's done the same mods that I plan to do. It's generally agreed that the pre-08 bikes tend to be 5-10 mpg better than the 08-09 Ninjas. The ace up my sleeve is my 16 tooth front sprocket (had to do some minor grinding to fit it), which should hopefully compensate for that advantage.
Right now the bike has 16/45 gearing, and I've got a 39 tooth rear sprocket that I'll install shortly before the Economy Run. This may render the bike unsafe in rush hour traffic, but sacrifices must be made.  The rear sprocket will bring my ratio down to 2.43 from a stock of 3.21. The second mod will be to change the jetting back to stock (I've got it rich / biased towards more power currently) and tune the pilot jets to be a little leaner than normal. There's a calculated risk of glazing spark plugs, but I'll be carrying a couple extra plus some tools to adjust the jetting just in case. Also, if I notice things starting to run roughly or ping, I can hopefully adjust the mixture with the choke to cool things down 
After that, it comes down to hypermiling technique. I don't think beating that guy's awesome 101 mpg is out of the question, we'll see!
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Ernie I admire your enthusiasm and can't wait to see how you do. This event is filling up fast. Three more drivers are signed up. We're up to 17 drivers [list on previous page is constantly updated] and the event is still almost two months away yet!
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Just a note to let you all know that we're filling up really quickly this year. Twenty five spots are the cut off and we're at 22 already. And the event is still almost two months away!
Registration is now full
1. Mike Kamm* - 1977 Datsun B210 - Averill Park, NY
2. Tom Moeller - 1994 Mazda Miata - Saratoga, NY
3. Dave Burnham* - 1991 Eco Diesel Jetta - Delanson, NY
4. Ben Jones - 1991 Honda CRX - Hanover, NH
5. Richard Vedder* - 2000 Ford ZX2 S/R - Johnstown, NY
6. Martin Deschenes - 2000 VW Jetta TDI - Quebec City, QC
7. Ron Kienhuis - 1972 Citroën SM - Long Island, NY
8. Vlad Saakyan - 2003 Suzuki Svs650 - Schenectady, NY
9. Bill Clark*[2] - 1957 Metropolitan Hartop - Endicott, NY
10. Bruce Turk* - 1958 Saab 93B - Walden, NY
11. Ernie Yue - 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250cc
12. Dan & Emma Lou Dobbins*[2] - 1964 Studebaker GT Hawk - Long Island, NY
13. Matt Herring* - 2009 Toyota Prius - Boston, MA
14. Robert Smalls - 2000 Honda Insight - Buffalo, NY
15. Peter Ramotowski - 2000 VW Golf TDI - Albany, NY
16. Eric Hoefer - 2008 Honda Fit - Guilderland, NY
17. Ryan Kramer - 1988 Toyota MR2 Supercharged - Albany NY
18. Lance David - 1996 Chevy Cavalier - Johnstown, NY
19. Darin Cosgrove* - 1998 Pontiac Firefly - Ontario, Canada
20. Chang Ho Kim*[3] - 89 Honda CRX - Maynard, MA
21. Jeff Morgan - 1992 240sx - Rotterdam, NY
22. Hobbit* - 2004 Toyota Prius - Boston, MA
23. Tom Compoli - 1981 VW Rabbit - Schenectady, NY
24. Dan Mandle*[2] - 2004 Golf TDI [Vegetable Oil] - Potsdam, NY
26. Carl Germain - 1950 Studebaker Champion Business Coupe
27. Jonathan Bartlett - 1969 Saab Sonett V-4 - Sterling, MA
* Will attend awards and club picnic
[ ] number of people for the picnic
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Re: AMEC Economy Run III August 23rd
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I'm looking to eat up some Prius's. Damn modern technology is no match for a good old fashioned smoken two stroke!"
Bruce T
So this brings up a few questions. Will you make Bruce top up with straight gas, or can he toss in a measured amount of 2-cycle oil to keep the mix right? Are the gallons measuring all things going into the tank, or only gas?
And now that I've dragged guy with a biodiesel VW in from parts unknown, how are you going to measure his fuel? Do you account for the different energy density of fish fry oil vs tortilla chip oil or McDonalds french fry oil?
And most importantly, I want to start right behind the bio car, so I get a nice popcorn aroma during the run. 
tom
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