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jalalski

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I do a lot of city driving and the start, stop situation is what wears out the brakes faster.

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"I HATE DIY IDEAS !!!!!"

 Here I am, the X-Trail up on jacks, the calipers painted a nice shade of red, three wheels are all back on, time for a drink. One wheel to go.

 Well, murphys law strikes again.

 I have tried to push the pistons back in, on the drivers side front and guess what. THEY WONT GO BACK IN. (scream)
 There are two pistons, push one in, and the other pushes out. Push that one and you guessed it, the other one pops out. I think I can here the exee laughing at me.

 I have done everything I can think of. Cap taken off the brake fluid cannister and all. Tried pushing both in together and they don't want to budge.

 Please help. The X-Trail aint going too far on three wheels.

  I think I'm about to get the big "I told you so" from the boss.

 HELP ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Hi Brett,

Take it easy mate and don't rush it, they WILL go in.

You're probably stressed out after doing so much DIY in one day LOL emoticon

Grab a hammer with a wooden handle, and then insert that handle so its lays across BOTH pistons at the same time and push as hard as you can.

The brake fluid cap needs to be open at all times while you're doing this and covered with a rag.

Important also: When you're pushing the pistons on one of the wheels all other 3 wheels need to have the pistons in place (i.e. closed calipers)

Good luck and let me know how you go.

P.S. The DIY will only work with EBC Brake Pads. hehehe Just Kidding emoticon

What pads did you end-up getting? Bendix?


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HORRAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!

All fixed. Thanks for the tip, but I ended up using a G clamp with a piece of rag to stop it scratching the pistons.

 I have also sprayed the front recovery hooks red as well. Looks pretty good, if I don't say so myself. When the wife asked why, reason given was so that I can find them in a bog or underwater. My reason, because it looks cool.

 
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Ok, I still have a bit of paint left, what else can I spray.



 Yeah I ended up going with the 'BENDIX 4WD-Ultimate' brakes all round. I was surprised by the difference in sizes from the front to the back. The backs are tiny. All up they costs me $100 (mates rates). I have always used the Bendix on my larger fully loaded 4wd and they are great. They should have no problems pulling up the little exee.

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Hi Brett,

Glad it all worked-out well.

Time for that deserved drink of yours emoticon

I have only used Bendix with sedans and I know they're great, but the only thing I didn't like about them is the brake dust they used to produce (similar to the factory nissan ones) and the squeaking sometimes.

Other than that their gripping power was very good.

See how you go with them in the exy and let us know.


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When I had the Jeep (the same vehicle I first tried out Fatboy headlight globes on), I also fitted some titanium brake pads which I got from the Rancho suppliers at Castle Hill. If they do these to fit the X-Trail run, do not walk to them to get a set. Not only do they improve braking, they do not leave a residue that turns your alloys black!
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EBC Green Stuff 20,000kms report


Hi Guys,

Well, it has been just over 20,000kms since I last changed the front brake pads to EBC Greenstuff and here is the QC report

The first 150 or so kms saw these pads produce a slight but constant squeak while braking, which is no surprise, as this is the bedding in period.

There was also some brake dust produced by the pads in that period, but this is no surprise as well.

Since then and at approx. 10,000kms mark, I checked the front brakes for wear and found them to be perfectly and evenly wearing out and there we no signs of any scratches on the disc.

The brake pads performed magnificently through-out this period, their grip was excellent and the amount of brake dust produced was negligible and in fact hardly noticeable compared to the factory pads.

I kept driving with these pads on and I am now at the 20,000kms mark where I have done the second inspection and to my surprise the wear on the pads has not increased much compared to my last inspection at 10K, the disc surface is still very smooth and no excessive brake dust was present.

Since then, I have also changed the rear brake pads to EBC as well. In fact it is recommended to be running on the same type of pads (front and rear).

Conclusion: These pads certainly worth having a try, as they proved to be an excellent choice and alternative to the factory pads.


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      Question about the brake fliud ? I was told that you should not push the pistons back in the caliper and let the fluid go back up the brake line to the master cylinder because it may do damage to the abs unit or brake master cylinder. they told me that you should put a brake clamp on the line and open the bleeder and let the fluid out that way and not back up the brake pipe.Then when you bleed the brakes that there will be fresh fluid in the caliper>
  Is this the right way or not
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The service manual CD does not include the method of brake hose clamping at all.

It clearly states that the pistons should be pushed back into place and the brake fluid to be monitored on the brake master cylinder reservoir for excess spillage.

The only thing that needs to be added to the DIY Guide we have here, is that the brake pads need to be greased using (brake grease) on the back of the pads and both sides of the shim.


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Hi,

Question:-

I assume that non-original pads would have a different coefficient of friction compared to the original - they must have if their braking is improved.

In fitting non-original pads to say the front only, what happens to the braking-balance of the vehicle in an emergency stop if the rear brakes were then far less effective compared to the improved front?

Would the vehicle become unsafe or even uncontrollable?

Just a thought - would like to know for future reference.

In the matter of replacement distance, I have now travelled about 84,000k and at the last service was told that the brakes "were fine".



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