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Hi Guys,

Those of you in WA and thinking of doing LPG conversions should read the new laws in this regard HERE

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If Ben or Peter from LPG Warehouse could let us know that the Liquid LPG kit for the Xtrail has had emmissions certification testing done and a certificate is available for all installers to give any members getting the kit installed, then this would satisfy any requirements of the new WA laws and negate the IM240 test having to be done.

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hi guys,

We have had many discussions with the Western Australian authorities regarding the JTG.

Where other systems require modification of their fuels lines, etc. JTG liquid lpg meets are
requirements of WA authorities. I hope this clears up the info.

regards

Peter
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Didnt know whether to post this in the exhaust or LPG thread :D so here goes...

I just replaced my dual fuel, V6 Tritons extractors and Cat (crappy, crappy job), due to the fact that the mild steel after market pipes had crystlalised (basically have been so hot, for so long the metal has fragmented into shiny little shavings and sounded like nuts and bolts in the pipe work)) after approximately 80 thousand kms of roughly 80/20 use. Primarily LPG usage.
The manifold gasket was completely shot as well.
Speaking to mechanic mates, the general concensus is that the hotter exhaust gas and lack of additives greatly reduces the life of an exhaust (and heres the biggy :oops: ) REGARDLESS of whether its stainless or stock mild steel. Purely because of internal manifold temps running LPG

Questions to the gurus (exhuast or LPG)
Anyone heard/come across this? Any model, any car
Can anything be done to minimise damge/ extend the life of systems?(apart from run more petrol)
On factory fitted LPG cars...is the exhaust sytem changed as well? If so...to what?
Is stainless impervious (ie NO premature failure due to LPG exhaust temps)?

After 4 cars with LPG (sold before big Kms were racked up) it is something I hadnt considered

Not trying to scare anyone or wind anyone up....purely looking for info I was completely unaware of.
Especially when considering putting LPG on a car that will be my 7 month old sons 18th birthday present :D
Dont want to stuff a thread, feel free to move as required Jalal
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Especially when considering putting LPG on a car that will be my 7 month old sons 18th birthday present



LOL emoticon You have nothing to worry about then Dave, as he'll be getting a shell of a car with nothing else going wrong cause it won't be there emoticon

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Good evening Ladies / Gents
Its been a while since I posted on the website so please excuse my absence!
I had my Exy converted to LPG last November (ish) and have done about 30,000 km since the conversion. It has been running like a champion: 12-13lts of LPG/100km!
The car started playing up about 3 weeks ago, rough running, engine cutting out, hard to start & increaased LPG consumption.
Most problems were when the car was cold. At my trusted mechanic today and he seems to think that there might be some valve recession and the 'Bucket' style shims may have to be replaced with items with a smaller gap to allow the valves to properly close. He wanted to know if any-one else with their Exy's on gas had experienced the same thing (and also put out a warning)
Thanks for reading this post!

Shane
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Shane,

Thanks for letting us know.

Do you have any more information about what went wrong yet? or what could be done to fix/prevent it?

I'm very close to converting mine to the liquid injection system, and it'd be very good to know.

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RJ
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G'day all,
Yes it's bad news I'm afraid, the valve clearances are supposed to be around 14 thou' but mine had reduced to about 1 thou' on one cylinder and the biggest was about 6 thou' on the others. Not a very good outcome.
The shims are the "bucket" type arrangement and there was only 2 in Oz' with the others having to be sourced from Nissan Japan. (and at around $48 each this is going to be an expensive fix!)
Upshot is I still have about a week to 10 days minimum wait to get my car back. My mechanic seems to think that the fix may only be good for another 30-40 thousand Km's and then perhaps I'm looking at having the whole head replaced.

To say I'm not overjoyed is a bit of an understatement! I am about to see what the LPG Warehouse has to say about this situation - if their kit does this to my car I think others should be warned. I am not aware of the warranty situation as yet - I will find out today what they have to say.
My car is kept in A1 condition and has been serviced in accordance with the Nissan book since new so I don't believe there is a problem there.

My mechanic has been an authorized LPG installer for years and has done several of my previous cars and his work is impeccable but he did say this was the 1st Xtrail he had done with the new system, the guy from LPG warehouse came out and showed him how to tune the car with the laptop etc and the was no hassles there - the car ran perfectly from the 1st time I turned the key after the conversion - just down the road seems to be the problem!

Seriously though, if the prognosis is that I will have to do this repair again in 30-40 thousand Kays' I will have no choice but to remove the gas system - it's just not worth it.

I look forward to any other members experiences with the Tartarini system.

Regards,
Shane.

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Thanks for the feedback Shane.

I would be feeling pretty crook if it had happened to me. I hope the the LPG Warehouse people are able to identify and fix the problem - at their cost.

That's probably the only way that they will be able to restore confidence in their product, especially among potential buyers who drive Xtrails.

I'm sure they will do their best.

Best of luck with it, and please let us know the outcome.

My own purchase is going to have to wait until you have a good result.

Cheers,
RJ
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No worries RJ,
I'm off to have a sqwiz at the car this morning and get an update. As soon as I get an outcome one way or the other I'll put up a post. Fingers crossed!!

Shane. emoticon

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