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JBMurf
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Date Registered: 05-2006
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I would just like to share my first experience in towing my caravan and get others opinions of it.

OK, firstly my Exy is a 2004 ST Auto with 63000k on the clock with a transmission cooler fitted and a K&N air filter, and the caravan is an older Viscount Grand Tourer pop top, 14 foot long and weighs 850kg unladen and about 1100kg when loaded.

I took it to Port Lincoln on the Eyre Peninsula in SA., with an overnight stop at Port Augusta.

On the trip down there I drove with the overdrive in the off position and cruised at around 100kph.

On both stages of the trip the Exy performed beautifully with no problems with hills or the road conditions. My fuel consumption was 16.5 L/100k, which was a bit more than I was hoping for (13-14L/110k).

During the week I spent there I did a bit of sightseening and my fuel consumption averaged 9.2L/110k.

On the first stage of the trip back following the same route I decided to drive with the overdrive in the on position and keep the speed to around 90kph.

For this stage of the trip my fuel consumption was 18.2L/100k which I put down to windy conditions. I stopped and refueled once along the way and by this time the wind had gone and for the rest of the trip I got 15.3L/100k. This was in my opinion a more acceptable fuel use.

On the final stage of my trip I again drove with the overdrive on but increased my cruising speed to 100Kph and this time my fuel use was 14.9L/100k.

From this I have concluded that driving with the overdrive off will increase fuel use by about 1-1.5L/100k. I also feel that the slighty higher crusing speed also helps the Exy handle slight hills and head winds better without the tranny changing down.

I dont think that towing a caravan with overdrive on will cause any major problems under normal conditions if a trans cooler is fitted and the transmission does not do a lot of changing up and down.

On a hot day with a lot of head wind or hilly roads then I think I would turn overdrive off and put up with the extra fuel use just to be sure I didnt damage the transmission.

Overall I was quite happy with the Exy performance. Did have a couple of minor mishaps though.

First was dont reverse a caravan on uneven ground with the jockey wheel down....it will break off....mine did.

Secondly trying to unhitch a van and level it without a jockey wheel is not easy, however with the jack from the Exy it can be done....BUT! remember to chock the van wheels or the van could roll backwards and fall of the jack crushing it in the process....mine did.

Fortunately the jack was still usable and with the load equalising bars being used as crowbars it was possible the lift the van high enough the place the jack back under the frame, after I had chocked the wheels.

I will be buying a couple of extra jacks for future trips as the Exy jack is crappy to use.

What are other people opinions on the fuel consumption of the XTrails when towing a caravan?

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Haven't towed a caravan as of yet, but I have towed a boat of lesser weight.. maybe around 900kg. I got about 13.8L/100km so I think your figures are pretty good... especially those you recorded with the overdrive on.

With overdrive off you are going to always use more fuel, but it gives you the response when you need it. If I'm coming to any sort of incline I always turn the overdrive off when towing... as you mentioned, you don't want the tranny working overtime by changing up and down.

As for the rest of your trip... oops... but remember; accidents happen! Hehe.. sounds like the sort of things that would happen to me.



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This thread has been moved to the "Towing" section of the forum for similar content.

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Recently did a 9500km trip from Adelaide to W.A.and return towing a Colt 13ft. Caravan. It weighs in at about 1000kg loaded,I averaged 14.5km/ltr for the trip overall.We drove in overdrive all of the way and never encountered any prblems with the Exy in any way.I fitted a trans cooler before we left and this proved to be a good move.I wouldnt hesitate to tow our caravan anywhere as I find the Exy a very good and capable tow vehicle.
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G'day John,
We tow a 5.1 metre pop-top van with our auto Exxy which is bog standard except for a transmission oil cooler. We've been across to Perth and back (from Sydney) and other trips, about 15,000 kms or so. I mostly leave overdrive on but switch it off approaching a hill or going down for engine braking. If it changes back to second I will pull it back to keep it in second until the hill flattens a bit but I wait for it to change down itself first. Fuel consumption varies of course but typically around 14-15 litres/100k at around 90-100 kph, sometimes better on flat ground etc and worse in extreme head winds on the Nullabour. We had them in both directions including one day at 45 degrees as well. I'm not totally convinced about better consumption with premium fuel. To me it hasn't been obvious.
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G'day John,
I tow a Statesman Royale 1990 model (van length 18' + tow bar) single axle independant suspension. I had both my exy & van weighed 4-12-2007 loaded with 60ltrs water,2 spare tyres, battery, clothes, and plenty of beer & spirits, & a can of coke for the wife.
 
3080 Kgs, van is 1580 & exy 1500.

I use OD, but near hills switch it off, normal driving staying at 100Kms, my fuel consumption varies between 15.580 ltrs per 100Km,(6.42 kms per ltr) and 16.207 ltrs. (6.36kms per ltr) depending on the number of hills or flat country.
On long uphills I will manualy shift to 2nd to ease the load on the tranny. emoticon

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Hi John,
I have just completed my first trip towing with my Xtrail, to Adelaide, from Trafalgar (Vic). 17' Avan about 1550kg fully loaded. The fuel consumption was similar to yours at around 16L per 100km. Driving in 2WD mode all the way, overdive off and sitting on about 90KMH.

I was a little unhappy with the "soft rear" though, as the vehicle tended to "bounce" on undulating highway, despite the van/X'trail being correctly levelled with level riders. I had 145kg ball weight, and had to take up 70kg on the hitch to level vehicles.

I am hoping to check out suspension options. Also looking at gas.

Happy and safe travelling.

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I was a little unhappy with the "soft rear" though, as the vehicle tended to "bounce" on undulating highway, despite the van/X'trail being correctly levelled with level riders. I had 145kg ball weight, and had to take up 70kg on the hitch to level vehicles.

I am hoping to check out suspension options.


Hi all,
I have a coromal van on order (approx. max 1500kg & ball weight 150kg) and are concerned about the rear suspension being too soft as level rides are not recommended. I am considering air bags to assist the rear in my T31 CVT petrol.
Will the rear drop a lot with this load?
Any ideas on suspension options now? Any using a friction sway control?
Do I need to fit a transmission cooler for a CVT?
Any advice/experiences on towing appreciated.
thanks David



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Hi David,
I tow a van similar in weight to yours - a 16' Avan, 1480kg loaded with around 143kg on the ball. My exy is a T30 so I am not familiar with the T31 suspension or towbar ratings and fittings.
With my van on I have had to use a LDH to take up about 70kg of the ball weight to bring the exy and van to level riding. I did fit stronger springs (OME) which gave a firmer ride but I still needed the LDH. Nissan did not have available heavier springs.
I would have fitted the air bags, but the price at the time was in the order of $2500.
I have had problems with my towbar and subframe, refer "Chassis Problems" under the towing thread, but the causes of my problems are probably rectified on the T31.
Happy vanning, and hope you have as much enjoyment as we are vanning with the exy.
Cheers
John
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Hi John,
Thanks for your advice and reassuring words.
I am looking forward to caravaning.
Did you find you had enough engine power?

Happy and safe travelling

thanks
         David

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