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Re: No Power
Hi Rich,
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Does no reply from Paul tonight mean that Nissan still has it and wont tell him what's wrong with it, or that they can't find what's wrong with it?
I like it. You've obviously dealt with Nissan enough that them finding the problem and fixing it first time didn't even seem like an option 
I dropped it off with them first thing Friday, explaining to the guy what was wrong and he said he'd send someone out in it and see what they could find. He rang me back a little later with the expected answer. He'd driven up Beacon Hill Rd and couldn't find anything wrong. For those that don't know the northern beaches, Beacon Hill Rd is a reasonably steep road but it is also quite a busy road which would have prevented him from being able to do the necessary stop/starts/slow hill climb tests he'd need to do to simulate off road driving. I very politely told him that Beacon Hill Rd wasn't a suitable test ground and told him (again) the sort of situation he needed to try it in to simulate the situation I was in when it happened. He said he send the guy out again and have another go. Didn't hear anything else back until the end of the day when they left a message to say the car was ready to pick up.
When I got to the garage to pick the car up I asked what they'd found. He said that all ECU codes checked out OK and didn't show anything out of the ordinary. He said that all the other testing they'd done had shown everything to be totally normal and therefore there wasn't much they could do. We'd just need to keep an eye on it and see if it re-occurs/gets worse. Needless to say I was less than happy but at 5pm on a Friday afternoon I wasn't going to get a lot of joy out of anyone so accepted the car back with the intention of trying it again myself and if it still plays up then I'll take the garage guy out in it myself next week and show him.
Didn't get a chance to try it out until last night. Tried it on the same steep spot I'd found the other day to my amazement however it behaved perfectly. I don't know what they've done (and I doubt they do either!) but is seems to be OK now. Whether they've just re-set everything and that's done the trick I don't know but fingers crossed it won't happen again. Will try loading the car up a bit (I had a load of camping stuff in it when it first happened) and see how much that affects things but all looks good so far.
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Paul
X-1025 (c)
Diamond Black '08 T31 ST-L CVT
Tinted Windows, Rust Proofing/Paint Protection, Mats, Bash Plate, Bonnet Protector, Tow Bar
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1/Feb/2009, 8:29 am
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Re: No Power
I was watching a Nascar race the other night and one of the drivers talking back to the pits said that he had lost all power . He was instructed to shut down the electronic systems to reset them . All good after the reset ! These days with everything computerised I have no doubt that electronics get confused a little and need a reset just like a Pc.
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T31 ti CVT 08
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6/Apr/2009, 10:58 pm
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Re: No Power
I dont know if this is a related problem or even relevant, but over the easter weekend I had my skiboat at Logue brook dam (100k's south of Perth ) and was trying to put it in the water with my 04 Xtrail. The dam was congested and the good launching spots taken so I was on a very steep side of the dam with loose gravel and was struggling to pull the trailer (1350kg's including the boat) out of the water and the car just seemed to run out of power as described in this thread initially, I kept trying and then things got worse as any throttle movement at all would make the engine rev up to near full revs and misfire. At this point I turned the car off whilst arranging for another car to give me a tow. When I restarted it a few minutes later the throttle seemed ok so I had another shot at driving out of the dam myself before getting a tow and the car just climbed up the hill with ease. I have since driven about 200k's without incident including 2 more boat launches, so perhaps it's just one of those things were the computer gets a bit flustered and just needs to be restarted to sort things out.
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Greg (X-748) I had a 2004 White ST Man_ Cooper H/T's_GME UHF_Front tow hooks, currently no 4x4 but when purchased it will be a Nissan !
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14/Apr/2009, 12:41 am
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Re: No Power
Greg, you didn't leave the hand-brake on accidentally during the first attempts, did you?
--- Rich. X-013(c)
'04 S2 ST Auto. Nudge_roofracks_tow_tints_Lightforce_GME_BFG_TBS_home-made-bashplate_50mm-spacer-lift
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14/Apr/2009, 2:54 am
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Re: No Power
Greg
It does sound weird, maybe the car didn't want to leave the spot you were in.
If it happens again it might be a case of re setting the ECU before you go again, just to be sure.
--- Tony X-891c
2008 T31 St
HERE is my X Trail
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14/Apr/2009, 6:51 am
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Re: No Power
Rich,
Definately did not have the handbrake on as I had moved a couple of meters then stopped and it was when trying to get underway again it started playing up. The area I was in was very steep and I was probably pushing my luck a bit as the 06 diesel patrol with 33" muddies next to me was struggling as well and he had to use low range to pull his boat out of the water. He actually came over later and commented how impressed he was that I managed to pull out of the water at all.
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Greg (X-748) I had a 2004 White ST Man_ Cooper H/T's_GME UHF_Front tow hooks, currently no 4x4 but when purchased it will be a Nissan !
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14/Apr/2009, 11:27 pm
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Re: No Power
Hi All
I had a similar problem with my CVT on the weekend heading up Barrengarry Mountain outside of Kangaroo Valley NSW. With the car fully loaded and towing my camper trailer which probably weighs 700kgs, following a truck into a corner, virtually came to a halt, accelerated out of the corner and up the steep hill to fing that the CVT did not work properly. Instead, stayed at around 2000 rpm and 15-20 kph and no power at all. After 10-20 seconds it finally kicked in. Then just didn't seem right for the rest of the trip home. I've done this trip twice before and not had any problems.
It's booked in at LINCORP service for next Monday. Hopefully, they will have an answer?
Craig
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15/Apr/2009, 12:45 pm
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Re: No Power
Well, it seems I jinxed myself by claiming the garage had fixed it. Was out over the weekend and it happened again.
Decided to have a go at a tag-along tour up in the blue mountains as we'd never done one. 10 minutes in we came across a pathetic excuse for a hill (nowhere near as steep as the hill I had problems with last time) and it started, the same symptoms again.........start up the hill, foot down, more gas, rev's drop. It the drops to about 1750 revs and sits there just crawling painfully up the hill. Luckily it got to the top of the hill so I continued on and as soon as I got a chance I stopped and switched the engine off hoping that by restarting it, it would reset whatever it needed to reset. No such luck. It was fine for a while but then started playing up again. Tried it with the ESP switched off but it made no difference. As before tried it in D as well as manual mode (which I always use when off road) and it made no difference either. It happened 3 times all up but never on consecutive hills or particularly steep hills. Just seemed to occur randomly.
Last time it happened I was worried that the weight in the car might have had an effect. I wasn't carrying anything excessive but it did have all of our camping gear in. This time however it was carrying the two of us and a packed lunch so weight certainly isn't a factor.
I was sitting thinking about it later on and I started thinking about a post I read where someone (sorry, can't remember who) had a problem with their CVT effectively locking in a higher gear ratio and then having to limp home. I've been trying to think of an accurate way of describing what it feels like so that I can better explain to the garage and that basically hit the nail on the head. It just feels like it's in too high a gear for the hill. If it was a manual you'd think you had it in 3rd instead of 1st. It seems to lock itself into a gear and as the gear engages fully it pulls the rev's down out of the usable power band (but it won't stall as it's an auto) and then it just crawls. That's exactly how it feels. No idea why it doesn't change ratio's when I put it back into D but that's for the garage to sort out.......he say's hopefully. I'll give them a ring today and get it booked in.
Other than the 3 instances of the CVT playing up (assuming that is what it is) it behaved perfectly for the rest of the day. Managed to get up a couple of monster hills with no problems, much to the amazement of the other drivers on the tour.
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Paul
X-1025 (c)
Diamond Black '08 T31 ST-L CVT
Tinted Windows, Rust Proofing/Paint Protection, Mats, Bash Plate, Bonnet Protector, Tow Bar
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20/Apr/2009, 9:24 am
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