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soft roader diesel comparision - guess which is numero uno
http://editorial.countrycars.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=55898
As a VW driver for many years and appreciative of their good engineering, I bought the Tl in preference to the Tiguan. One point and it is a matter of taste is that I actually also preferred the central console layout of the X-trail to the Tiguan.
John
--- TL dc i, manual, twilight; bash plate, jaos strut bar, BFGs' on 16x7 rims, factory tow bar & roof bars

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9/Aug/2008, 2:19 am
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Re: soft roader diesel comparision - guess which is numero uno
Thanks for providing the review John & I think the overall result was to be expected. The new T/D X-Trail is clearly the best suv in its class & will turn out to be a big seller for Nissan. Also, I have to agree with Glenn that its inexcusable to have a spare saver tyre with this type of vehicle & VW should correct the oversight or they may lose some sales because of it.
Cheers !
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9/Aug/2008, 6:47 pm
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Re: soft roader diesel comparision - guess which is numero uno
A lot of people buying soft-roaders might not even think to check what type of spare comes with the car as they will probably not even take it off-road.
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Kev X450(c)
2003 Titanium Ti Luxury Series 1
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9/Aug/2008, 10:45 pm
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Re: soft roader diesel comparision - guess which is numero uno
Glenn
I have had my Bora V6 since 2001 and guess what - apart from one broken window regulator - troublefree!
Mind you it was Made in Germany unlike later generations.
I did drive the Tiguan but the load space and space saver ruled it out. I think the driving dynamics of the X-trail are fine - I think the reviewers have to say something negative but the damping and steering are quite OK.
John
--- TL dc i, manual, twilight; bash plate, jaos strut bar, BFGs' on 16x7 rims, factory tow bar & roof bars

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10/Aug/2008, 12:23 am
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Re: soft roader diesel comparision - guess which is numero uno
There is an error in that article regarding the space savers...
It states that "The VW is one of only two vehicles (the other being Mazda’s CX-7) in the segment to not offer a full-size spare."
The Outlander has a space saver too and is well and truely in this segment, more so than the CX-7 which is pretty much just an oversized sportscar (test drove one today, they go like the clappers)...
Anyways, just my 2 cents.
Cheers,
Chris.
Last edited by ChrisJH, 10/Aug/2008, 12:26 am
--- Chris (X-918)
2008 TL Manual Precision Grey
Nudge Bar, Roof Bars, Tow Bar, Parking Sensors, Cargo Tray, Rubber Mats, Tint, Paint Protection, Rust Protection, Leather Protection, and a scratch from some w**ker in the IKEA car park..
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10/Aug/2008, 12:25 am
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Re: soft roader diesel comparison - guess which is numero uno
We were actually lucky to get a T31 with a full size spare, as the guys in the UK did get it with the space saver!
If it came down to the space saver in this comparison, I reckon the exy didn't win by much to be honest, as it's not a huge advantage considering that in the last 15 years of driving (on and off-road) I only got one flat tyre (touch wood LOL ) and you can always change the space-saver to a full size wheel (space permitting)
Still, it's nice to see an exy getting the crown for sure 
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10/Aug/2008, 1:10 am
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Re: soft roader diesel comparision - guess which is numero uno
Chris - what was the CX7's fuel readout saying - I've heard they are pretty heavy particularly around town. Also the swept back windscreen is not summer friendly.
Jalal - the space saver was a consideration for me as was the actual load space. I opened up the back yesterday to familiarise myself with everything and was pleased that the spare is also mounted on an alloy wheel not a cheaper steel rim.
There are some nice touches on the VW Tiguan and I hope VW do well with it in Oz. I heard the waiting times are quite long.
One little item I miss from the VW is the ability once you turn off the engine/ignition, it leaves power on the windows/sunroof for about three minutes unless a door is opened. Handy.
--- TL dc i, manual, twilight; bash plate, jaos strut bar, BFGs' on 16x7 rims, factory tow bar & roof bars

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10/Aug/2008, 10:29 am
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Re: soft roader diesel comparision - guess which is numero uno
quote: popeclement wrote:
One little item I miss from the VW is the ability once you turn off the engine/ignition, it leaves power on the windows/sunroof for about three minutes unless a door is opened. Handy.
This has already been done for the T30 (courtesy of Kev and Nathan) and am sure it can also be done for the T31 ...just do a search in the T30 DIY guide section and start modding the T31
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10/Aug/2008, 10:36 am
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Re: soft roader diesel comparision - guess which is numero uno
The readout on the CX7 said about 14.3lt per 100km as we left the dealership.
The salesman said that the trip computer had been reset that morning, and it had only done 15kms since the reset. I drove the car petty hard, and by the time we got back, I'd done another 15kms and the useage had moved to 14.7lt per 100km.
According to the interweb (Ah how I love the internet) people are reporting fuel usage between 12 and 18 per 100km.... of premium unleaded. Obviously it depends how you drive it of course....
The CX7 lux was out of our price range, but mazda are selling them with free onroads, so they now are only a $1000 more than the TL X-trail.
It's a pity they'd get bogged on the gravel road that leads to the beach, rather than the beach itself...
--- Chris (X-918)
2008 TL Manual Precision Grey
Nudge Bar, Roof Bars, Tow Bar, Parking Sensors, Cargo Tray, Rubber Mats, Tint, Paint Protection, Rust Protection, Leather Protection, and a scratch from some w**ker in the IKEA car park..
:(:(
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10/Aug/2008, 1:55 pm
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