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Re: K-Drama: 노란손수건 (Yellow Handkerchief)
Ep #73
MJ throws the pics at SM. He immediately becomes angry and defensive. To me, SM has not once shown understanding or taken responsibility for MJ's pain. He just get furious.
I 100% understand it from MJ's point of view. She only knows that JY was SM's ex and both are keeping it from her. She isn't aware that JY has asked SM to be honest with JY. Min Joo only has her suspicions to go on because Sang Min has refused to be honest with her. So considering what MJ's knowledge is of everything, I feel sorry for her and blame SM ..
MJ goes to JY's job (that was so unnecessary) and slaps JY in front of her co-workers. Yun Joo puts herself between JY and MJ. I think Yun Joo could have taken MJ too... lol
I couldn't take my eyes off MJ's feet.
Dad was so disgusting in SM's office. He tells the secretary, "What will happen to the company at this rate". He knows nothing about that company or how it's ran so he should keep his opinions to himself. He thinks he's all that doesn't he!!
Believe me, I do not like MJ. But I cried through this episode because I could really feel her pain. It shouldn't have come to this. To make things worse, SM comes home drunk and MJ is packing his clothes. He throws another fit and then tells MJ not to harass Ja Young. Considering MJ thinks he is still seeing JY, this was not a wise thing for him to say. Why isn't he trying to console her and reassure her that he loves her. This all stems from her insecurities about his love for her.
But Sang Min is so high and mighty (he got that from his father) and how dare anyone point a finger at him. When MJ asks him if he married her to get the company he starts screaming at her YES YES and then throws her. HOW DARE HE..
Ep #74
I cried through this one too...
When MJ was in the hospital and the Dr's told her she needs surgery it just broke my heart. She refuses to have the surgery because she is so desperate for a baby. Yes, she brought on her own miscarriage but I still ultimately blame Sang Min for ALL OF IT..
Young Joon goes home for his parents memorial but granny starts in and even Hyun Ji couldn't stop her ranting. Young Joon becomes angry and leaves. He calls JY to go with him to the cemetery and they perform ceremony there. Oh NO... Her comes Granny and HJ.
Granny's behavior at the cemetery was beyond unreasonable and ridiculous. Ja Young and HJ were both crying. YJ must have been crushed by that.. On the way home he begs JY for them to go to the states... and now, never return.
JY is alone at the playground, crying. She takes off YJ's ring...
OK, back to SM bashing: SM is at the office upset and Sun Joo comes in. She apologizes for ever saying anything about Tae Young's sister. SM says, "No, it's my fault. I couldn't keep it a seret forever". OK then, if he had told the truth in the beginning, none of this would have happened!
Dad calls him while SJ is there. He starts in how he can't get in touch with him and MJ and that he had to go to their office to try and get his 'allowance'. SM tells him he will deposit the $$ to his acct and then dad tells him, "You think money solves everything?"... Huh, isn't that why he went to the office.. for money?
MJ is getting worse... She needs that surgery if she is gonna live..
(Sang Min, remember this is all your punishment)...
Oh, we're having a traditional wedding? TY seems happy/content. MR is being Princess Charming now.
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Re: K-Drama: 노란손수건 (Yellow Handkerchief)
addie04 wrote: It looks like SM is getting his first dose of the guilts . I do not think there is anything he can do for JY , so I think he should stay home and just wallow in it . It doesn't look like he is going to do that either ....
Guilt from a man (using the word loosely) that tells you I’m dumping you, I don’t care that your mom just died; Oh, and by the way, kill the baby too… I don’t think so.
I don’t think SM is concerned about JY (or anyone other than himself for that matter).
He only went to “comfort” JY because he wants her out of his life one way or the other. He’s probably hoping she’ll give up on YJ and then she’ll be out of the picture. As for meeting with JY, I’m sure he sees it as “payback” for some of the treatment JY has given him.
further from addie04: I almost lost my teeth when MiRyung released TaeYoung from his promise , and he asked her to marry him all over again . I am still kind of speechless about that . I know TY is settling , even though he may (?) be fond of MR .
TY is really into family. He knows as much as he and SJ care for each other, love is not enough…(A constantly reoccurring theme in K-Dramas) I can’t see SJ cooking meals for grandma and the family for the rest of her life. Also, can you imagine all the strife they would be inviting? TY knows MR will do her best for his family for his sake. And that’s what he wants.
Be back with 73-74 later.
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I am back and down for a Yellow Handkerchief mini marathon .
I have to jump in after # 73 , as I just finished it . Frankly , I am aghast at MinJoo's behavior after this latest thing . I think she is beyond pathetic - on the scale with HyunJi .
When she confronts Ja Young with such violence , I think everything she says is projected on to JY . She literally talks about herself as the victim . When is SHE going to take responsibility for some of her own choices and the reprocussions they have caused .
Perhaps SangMin shouldn't have shaken her , but he had been drinking and he has had to put up with her shrewish accusations for so long , he just snapped . My mother used to say " if I am going to keep getting accused of something , I may as well do it " I think that is in reference to her teenage years and her altercations with her parents .... but I digress .
Lord knows SangMin is no prize , but I don't think he should be expected to live under these conditions .
MinJoo's insecurity apparently knows no bounds - and I really resented the way she dismissed her step mom as if she was the housekeeper . Friends : I would n't even treat the housekeeper that way - if I had one - it is ME ME ME .
I can't imagine what was shaken loose in the medical sense - but we are headed to the hospital in the next ep .
In the meantime , HJ continues to butt in where she is NOT wanted , and granny is going to give herself a stroke . I think that YJ had no choice but to leave , but it seems to be extremely bad karma to shut him out of his own parent's memorial . IF HJ would only pack her bags , YJ could take her to the airport and MAKE SURE SHE GETS ON THE PLANE . I think she is becoming the "guest that wouldn't leave " a la
SNL .
At least we have some light moments with NaYoung and KiHoon . WHat a twist : now she wants to go to college !
SOrry , I am still not buying any reason as a valid one for TaeYoung to marry MiRyung . I don't care how practical you want me to be - LOVE is the thing . Would you rather have a great love - even for a little while - or spend a lifetime with MiRyung ? ( I rest my case - almost )
SM and MJ married for all the practical reasons we could think of - and we see how well that is working for them - NOT .
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Addie04 wrote: SM and MJ married for all the practical reasons we could think of - and we see how well that is working for them - NOT .
The difference is SM and MJ are both ME ME ME. It wouldn't work with anyone.
At least MR is willing to put TY first. Heck, it seems she would get married standing on her head if she had to. I think the big turning point was when she gave TY an out.
I pretty much agree with your and nsheldon's thoughts; except for... I didn't keep track of MJ's feet.
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Ep 75 & 76
Sang Min is really hurting over Min Joo's pain (or not).. I don't know if seeing this before makes a difference in my opinion of him. Actually, I think I sympathized with him more last time. I think this time around I'm identifying more with Min Joo. Understanding that she was crazy because she didn't have all the facts and knew SM was hiding something from her. I blame SM for it all...
Anyway, MJ tells SM to get out. She wants to break up with him, end the marriage.
Mi Ryung's mom is being so totally ridiculous. She KNOWS TY has no money, nor does his family, but she wants a good diamond ring. I actually was proud of MR (still don't like her though) for coming up with the fake diamond idea. It is something to get her mom off TY and yet, something to make it doable for TY.
TY sees Sun Joo's car and then SJ. He tells her to wait (makes a delivery) and then rushes back to her. This is just so sad for me. He tells her that if she came to his family she would have to clean and cook. He knows this is not how she was raised. She knows it too... (but still.....)
Ki Hoon takes Na Young to his house... Na Young should know who KH's roommate is!! I mean, Ja Young went with Sang Min for 10 years. Did not her family all know SM's dad???
Dad goes to the hospital. He is distraught over learning he will never be a grandfather (OH NO!!!!)
Ja Young asks her grandmother to see if she can go stay with her grandmother's old friend. She tells her Granny she plans to let Young Joon go. She can't stand that his Granny is suffering so much and she knows Granny will not approve...
It goes to Young Joon's house. Hyun Ji is in his room. WHY would she go in his room? In comes Granny. HJ starts in AGAIN about why Granny is against JY. Granny still isn't talking. But Granny does tell HJ that accepting Ja Young would be like living with a bomb.
If Ja Young leaves I cannot imagine the pain Young Joon will be in. This is the woman he wants. He may have lived with Hyun Ji and loved her, but she was not the love of his life... Ja Young is...
Is everyone up for #77/78? If not we could skip Sunday and pick up on Tuesday...
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I am up for Yellow Handkerchief on Sunday . I am sorry I fell behind one day - it happens sometimes .
If I fall behind I will make sure it is on a BSGS day - LOL .
After watching ep 75 -76 last night , I felt vaguely dissatisfied and even irritated . It was late and I was
tired , I couldn't really put my feelings into words .
Today I am doing a little better in that dept . 
First of all , MiJoo and SangMIn are flawed individuals . Their relationship has no basis : They neither talk about anything real , nor do they listen to what each other are saying . They are almost equal in my book .
SM dumped JY , MJ actively pursued him - and she didn't care whether he may have been in a relationship with some one else .
DO I believe in karma ? Yes , I do - but the science trained part of me knows that MiJoo had that tumor growing inside for a long time before it came to the point that she needed surgery . It also occurs to me that ( and yes , I know this is a fantasy ) this character obviously did not have routing gynecological exams . I do not believe they missed it if she had an ultrasound or a pelvic exam .
It hit what my irritation is about , and it concerns BOTH Ja Young and Tae Young . JY has decided to ( once again ) give up Young Joon for his own good . Forget the fact that he has already gone so far out on a limb for her that , IMHO , she should agree to marry him where ever he wants - country church , city hall - whatever .
BUT NO - JY has decided to let him go . That is not all that bothers me - it is that she has made this decision - unilaterally - without discussion . I think Young Joon has the right to be very VERY angry if JY actually does what she thinks she is going to do .
When I started down this path , I though of TaeYoung , and I got mad . He ran to meet SunJoo , and told her why she couldn't marry him . Even if everything he said about SunJoo were true , how dare he make that decision for her without discussion ??? How dare he not even pretend to give her the semblance of a choice ? At the very least , they are both ( the Yoons ) being paternalistic . I don't see it as being noble at all - I see it as the ultimate in selfishness .
And coming to that conclusion , now I am starting to see MiRyung as a victim and a (not ) so innocent
bystander . She is a built in excuse for TaeYoung not to think about SunJoo or feel bad about her .
That decision promises to come back to bite him when the novelty of being married to MiRyung wears
off .
Ok - end of rant .
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Nsheldon wrote:
Is everyone up for #77/78? If not we could skip Sunday and pick up on Tuesday...
Me? I’ll go with the flow…
as for 75-76, Twinnie, you and Addie04 saved me the trouble of having to write anything about it. You both covered my thoughts pretty well. I would like to expound a bit on the following:
Nsheldon:
Sang Min is really hurting over Min Joo's pain (or not).. I don't know if seeing this before makes a difference in my opinion of him. Actually, I think I sympathized with him more last time. I think this time around I'm identifying more with Min Joo. Understanding that she was crazy because she didn't have all the facts and knew SM was hiding something from her. I blame SM for it all...
Last time around, I also had some compassion for SM. This time, I think I’m paying more attention to all the despicable things he’s done. I have absolutely NO compassion or sympathy for him.
Addie04: It hit what my irritation is about , and it concerns BOTH Ja Young and Tae Young . JY has decided to ( once again ) give up Young Joon for his own good . Forget the fact that he has already gone so far out on a limb for her that , IMHO , she should agree to marry him where ever he wants - country church , city hall - whatever .
Me, it’s more about JY. Because she feels a certain way about things, hers is the right decision?
Where is the logic? Her not seeing YJ is going to leave everyone unhappy since there’s no resolution. If she married YJ, at least the two of them and the child could be happy. Better some happiness than none at all.
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