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Anyeong Hasaeyo! Good morning BDF 
Smoochie and Jasy: I'm so sorry to let the two of you holding the bag for a while but I've been very busy doing our garage renovation. Cleaning out all the junks that have been stored for decades (I'm a rat pack), painting and installing cabinets, etc. It's not finished yet, but I have to take a breather. Although I have not been posting, I have been reading your posts everyday.
So, we are now in the middle of the drama. Yonsoo is being kicked out of the Lee's household and Minchul is up against Sunjae as business competitor and DLAss and Sunchun's evil deed is surfacing. When I first watched this drama, at this point, I couldn't let go. I watched this episode and the rest of this drama in one sitting. That means from early afternoon to the wee hours of the morning. I tell you, my eyes got puffy and red and 3 boxes of tissues were not enough. LOL!
BTW, Goo Juwon's (our Suky) new drama series have started here in LA. It's called Sea of Ambition and show every Friday, two episodes a week. I couldn't tell, yet, if I would fall for him deeply like in BB but so far, I think his character here is too subdued. I want him strong and to the point of overbearing. But he seemed sheepish here. And I don't like the leading lady.
Ooops! I'm getting into trouble again. I shouldn't be discussing this drama here. But I just want to let you know how I feel about our Suky now.
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10/2/2008, 7:34 am
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Okay, I'm back. 
About Sena's makeover.  That dress was wearing her.  Who was the stylist on this drama? Did they mean for her to look so out of place dressed up? She looked like she was playing dress up with her mother's old clothes. Really, really bad look.
How about how Sun Jae was annoyed at being coerced into spending the day with her? Sena on the other hand, knows what she wants and persistently ignores Sun Jae not being thrilled with her company. The shoe is on the other foot here. I wonder how he likes it. The difference is that Yon Soo is kinder to him than he is to Sena, in the way she treats him. She spent time with him that nearly wrecked her relationship and he couldn't have cared less.
Sunchun moved quickly and under Min Chul's radar. He trusted that Yon Soo wouldn't tell him and she didn't. If Min Chul was informed it would have never happened the way it did. As it turned out it was a done deal by the time he knew.
I felt really sorry for Min Ji. She's come to really like and depend on Yon Soo for guidance and friendship. She may be the first person that Min Ji trusted, besides Min Chul. I'm glad for the girl's sake that she was able to turn herself around with Yon Soo's help. A far cry from the drunken girl, ready to strip in a club. Good for her!! 
I think the way they did the promotion for Kum Suk was inspired. So good how everywhere you looked, there she was. What do you call that thing near Victory, where they played her video? That also was brilliant. Great PR for them. They're in fighter mode.
I don't know how Min Chul keeps his cool through the next days. Everything that's wrong in his life right now has been caused by his father. From Sun Jae, to Victory employees going over to Muse, to DLAss caught in his little corruption, to Yon Soo moving out of the house. Its all on his head and its all up to him to fix. I don't envy this poor guy. His plate is full and he has no real support.
I like Min Chul's character. In the beginning, before I got any real insight into him, I saw him as odd and too closed off. Once I got to know his story, I found him totally different. He's lived a sad, lonely life in that "family". Still he perservered. He's bright and well educated and totally capable and qualified to run Victory with a sure hand. He's honest in his relationships with others. If he likes you, you know it and if he doesn't, you know that too. I admire how he took his little sister and tried to get her on the straight and narrow, when he saw she was in trouble. I like that he knew he wasn't helping and was able to admit it and brought in Yon Soo for help.
In my estimation, he's a good guy, with a bad beginning, who's doing his best. Though he has no good feelings toward Myungja, he's never disrespectful to her. He's either cool or pretty much ignores her, but never mean. His father, he basically looks through, aside from business, where he has to deal with him. Sun Jae, was treated pretty much like Myungja, until he started pursuing Yon Soo. He ignored him, until he couldn't anymore.
He's got a really hard road up ahead. I feel for him.
 
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10/2/2008, 10:25 am
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Hello BD Family
When Yon Soo left the house with her bags, the person I felt sorriest for was Min Ji. When she wailed, that now she'd be all alone again, I felt so sad for her. Its unlike Min Ji to be so out there with her feelings. She spent a good deal of her life isolated from the others in the household. Her choice. She felt as though the only person she could trust was Min Chul. Her father betrayed her. Myungja was the cause of that betrayal, as Min Ji saw it. Sun Jae was the result of that betrayal.
I thought it interesting that even when she was telling Yon Soo that Min Chul had a girlfriend and to give up, she was sympathetic toward her. She was hateful to Yon Soo at times, but I think that was a front. She'd grown to feel safe with her and was happier than she'd been in a long time, thanks to Yon Soo's care and guidance.
The topping on the cake for me was when Yon Soo arrived at Narae's and DLAss handed her the envelope from Sunchun. How low that man is. Actually both of them. I'm surprised that DLAss didn't pocket it when Yon Soo refused it. Sunchun thinks you can throw money at everything to fix it.
When they pull up in the car, there's Sun Jae. They say timing is everything and Sun Jae always has perfect timing. How she can speak to him still baffles me. If I had to have any conversation with him at this point, I'd have to tell him, that we're now on opposite sides and to please stay out of my face.  That would be the thing to do now. She's seen how distraught Min Chul is and is still civil to this little worm. I just don't get her. There's not that much nice in the world.
I have to go. 
Later 
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10/3/2008, 9:38 am
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Good Morning BD,
I can understand Minji's desperation in keeping Yonsoo with her at home even to the point of wanting to give Yonsoo tuition money to keep her there. The thought of feeling abandoned comes to mind and Minji says it when she tells Yonsoo she'll be all alone again. I really feel sorry for her.
Sunchun, as a father wants to get rid of Yonsoo quickly and doesn't even take into consideration how it will affect his daughter. Some father. And to do this behind Minchul's back is unforgivable.
I would have hoped that after Sunchun talked to Yonsoo in his office, she would have let Minchul know she was told to move out. This stuff always makes me crazy, these secrets. And again it's interesting to see that it's Yonsoo who is not very open and honest with Minchul as of right now, again. I suppose she could never go against the orders of Sunchun and I understand that but she could have told Minchul. She stares at him and he sees her tears and she quickly disappears into the ladies room and Minchul is left bewildered. Which one is it, Minchul or Yonsoo, that doesn't say what they're feeling in this relationship? Yonsoo said at one time it was Minchul. I say it's her.
And yes smoochie, Yonsoo is still sweet to Sunjae and he's not deserving of even one nice word. He should be as nice to Sena! That's a joke. He's annoyed when he's set up with her by Mimi. Interesting. If they weren't now in Mimi's hands, he probably never would have gone with her to the aquarium.
Now that Yonsoo is moving in with Narae, things are going to get really interesting and intense. I'm looking forward to this part of the drama now. What I can't stand though is Sunjae will still be hanging around Yonsoo. You just can't get rid of him! He needs a buddy instead of hanging around with a girl. So annoying!
How Yonsoo can be nice to Sunjae after he put Minchul on the spot about being Zero on the ship is beyond me. Didn't she look at Minchul's face that moment? She did. Didn't she look at Sunjae's face that moment? She did. Didn't she see that announcement as some kind of betrayal to Minchul? I did. Her loyalty needs to be with Minchul. I don't even know how Sunjae can face her half the time with the way he acts but she puts up with it so it doesn't matter to him because Yonsoo permits it.
The only ones I feel sad for are Minchul and Minji. That's it.
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10/4/2008, 6:42 am
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Anyeong Hasaeyo! Good morning BDF
How's everyone doing these days? With all the political and economic news so depressing, we are so lucky we have this thread to hang on to.
 
I really liked how Minji and Yonsoo have bonded. Compared to the time Yonsoo and Sena were together, Minji has but a few months to know Yonsoo up close and personal, lesser than how much Sena has spend together with Yonsoo. But I feel that, right now, Minji is closer to Yonsoo than Sena is. The interaction with each other is much warmer and personal. Sena has never done anything for Yonsoo. Sena always take, take and take, from Yonsoo, from Sunjae, from Minchul, from Mimi.
If Sunjae is the object of your hate, mine is Sena. class blockquote How Yonsoo can be nice to Sunjae after he put Minchul on the spot about being Zero on the ship is beyond me. Didn't she look at Minchul's face that moment? She did. Didn't she look at Sunjae's face that moment? She did. Didn't she see that announcement as some kind of betrayal to Minchul? I did. Her loyalty needs to be with Minchul. I don't even know how Sunjae can face her half the time with the way he acts but she puts up with it so it doesn't matter to him because Yonsoo permits it. I would like to clear up a point here. Sunjae didn't plan to announce at that boat party that he is Zero. He was put on the spot by Mimi. Given his sentiments at that moment, and his resolved to distance himself from Victory, he admitted that he was indeed Zero. I cannot blame him for that. Minchul created the fuss about Zero and even pressured him to agree to a lie that Mr. Oh is Zero. He should accept responsibility and deal with the consequence.
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10/4/2008, 7:45 am
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Good Morning BD Family
Emceema, I'm with you on Sena. I dislike her as much as you do. I find her selfish and uncaring. And like you said, she never did anything for anyone else. She takes and takes. Not that we should compare, but if I had to, I'd have to say that Min Ji has it all over her as a person. As mean as she is to her family members, excluding Min Chul, she was loving and sweet to her grandmother. It gave me hope for her. I saw that she had it in her to be a warm, caring person. I think its become a habit for her to act bratty, but she's even getting better with that.
When Min Chul went to see Yon Soo after she left the house, he tells her that she should know that nobody has any regard for what his father says. Yon Soo was a guest in that house, what was she supposed to do? Ignore him? She tells Min Chul that she left more out of anger than his father saying to leave. She tells him that she feels small and insecure around him. She feels always on edge, because she doesn't want to disappoint him. Because she thinks she loves him more than he loves her. She didn't like being humiliated by his father for loving him. She didn't want to take it anymore.
Min Chul sits down next to her and pulls her to him and holds her very close. His eyes fill with tears. He doesn't speak. I think he realizes that he hasn't given her enough to make her feel his love. He tries, I know he does, but he just doesn't know how. He's just learning how to open his heart to someone. I think he sees his part in her feeling so badly and really regrets it. He walks her to her door and tells her to go in. She tells him not to worry about her. I think he's just made a plan and just hasn't said it to her yet.
Just when I think that I can't possibly dislike Sun Jae more than I already to, he does something really low. I knew that he'd gloat over Yon Soo having to leave the house, but I'm still on, "What's it his business??" He waits for Min Chul at his car. He confronts him to tell him, he shouldn't have called him that day. It was a mistake to call him and it wasn't best for Yon Soo. Min Chul tells him to move out of his way, he's in no mood to hear this right now. But, Sun Jae's not done. He tells him he's pathetic, he can't even protect his own woman. He says he pretends to be so powerful. He tells him to let Yon Soo go. If he's going to make her miserable, he should let her go. Min Chul tells him he underestimates Yon Soo and that she wouldn't act according to his wishes. She isn't a fool. Sun Jae says if it were him, he wouldn't have let this happen. He'd never cause Yon Soo pain or make her unhappy. Min Chul says he's missing something. The important thing is whom Yon Soo desires, not who can treat her better. Min Chul nudges him out of his way and gets into his car.
Sun Jae says he's going to be watching and if he makes her suffer anymore he won't stand for it. He'll do everything and anything to take her away from him. Min Chul doesn't look threatened. He drives away, leaving the little creep standing there.
I don't even know where to begin!! First I want to ask what ever gave this little worm the idea that he controls their relationship? Does he really believe that if he hadn't called Min Chul that day, that would have been the end of their relationship?? Somehow they'd have gotten back together. Without that little idiots help. They love each other!!! He gives himself way too much credit!!
Second of all, the reason behind all of their problems stems from him and his interference. If he really cared one iota for Yon Soo's happiness, he'd have left her to Min Chul, where she wants to be. If anyone's to blame for all of this its him. How come nobody says this to him? They'd have been sailing right along and way further into learning about each other, if it wasn't for his constant sticking his nose in where it wasn't wanted and didn't belong.
Third, he tells Min Chul he's going to be watching and if he doesn't like what he sees he's going to do everything in his power to take her away from him. Could anyone tell me how he's going to do that?? Is she a piece of furniture? Can he just take her? Does she have a say? This little worm is still dreaming. I'd say he's definitely, overly optimistic. It couldn't happen in a billion years. Min Chul knows that and I don't think takes that particular threat seriously. Plus, I don't think for one moment that he wants to ever see Yon Soo unhappy. The fact that she's been asked to leave the house is a direct result of her mentioning Sun Jae's name one time too many to Min Chul. They wouldn't have been together in his room if she hadn't done that. So Sun Jae can thank himself for that.
Isn't Sena upstairs waiting dinner for him? So he's going to always be in Yon Soo's face from now on? I cannot abide this guy. I can't imagine anyone more pathetic than he is and can't imagine his calling Min Chul pathetic. Its definitely the pot and the kettle. 
And one more thing!! Can anyone tell me what the hell is in that backpack?? Is he even a grownup?? What is a grown man schlepping around that thing for?? What does he carry in it, his lunch? His crayons? His spine? What?
Okay, I'm done here for now. Too much??
I have to go now, but you know I'll be back.
Later
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10/4/2008, 8:44 am
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Okay now, I have to say that Sunjae is a bit wacky. I can't help it. He tells Minchul he shouldn't have called him that day as if he and he alone is the reason Yonsoo and Minchul are together. He needs to get a grip. If not on that day, they still would have found their way back to each other and I have no doubt about that. With Yonsoo's sad stares at him in work it wouldn't have taken Minchul that long to whisper in her ear to follow him.
All Sunjae shows himself to be is full of himself, he has this self importance aura about himself. Sunjae tells Minchul he can't even protect his own woman? He says if it were him, he wouldn't have let this happen. Let what happen? Yonsoo being thrown out of the house? Yonsoo having doubts about Minchul's feelings? Sunjae is the root of both those things. He caused Yonsoo being told to leave.
Sunjae protect Yonsoo? Against who? Sunchun? LOL That little weasel could never protect Yonsoo in that house against Sunchun. He couldn't even protect himself against Sunchun. As an adult he was still afraid to play music in his own bedroom defying Sunchun never mind protecting Yonsoo. LOL LOL
Does this creep even know why she was told to leave? He's spouting off big words now that he's gotten his "identity" back and moved out. I watched this days ago and can't remember what she told him so I have to watch it again but I doubt that Yonsoo told the little pest she was caught in Minchul's arms in his bedroom.
Yonsoo tells Minchul she left more out of anger than Sunchun telling her to leave. Well she might think that way in her heart but there is no question she left because Sunchun told her to leave. He even had a car waiting for her.
I really don't understand her feeling small and insecure around him either. What went wrong here? Maybe if she paid attention to him instead of his brother, Minchul would be different. I'm sorry but he was going to declare her his woman and protect her. He told her that night. She messed it up. Minchul should be the one feeling insecure. How things get twisted!
And about who can treat Yonsoo better. Minchul is always stopped in his tracks because of Yonsoo's caring so much about Sunjae. This makes me crazy. I just don't get her logic. Maybe Yonsoo and Sunjae deserve each other.
LOL LOL His backpack...smoochie, you are too funny!! There is nothing in it, it's as empty as his head. Maybe he thinks it makes him look important. He sees Minchul carrying his attache case and this is as close as he can get to that because he hasn't worked all these years.
Yup! It's all about who Yonsoo desires and loves. And she desires and loves that guy in the above picture. Sunjae doesn't stand a chance.
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10/4/2008, 11:22 am
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LOL LOL His backpack...smoochie, you are too funny!! There is nothing in it, it's as empty as his head. Maybe he thinks it makes him look important. He sees Minchul carrying his attache case and this is as close as he can get to that because he hasn't worked all these years.
Jasy you made me laugh out loud. You're right, he looks like a teenager carrying that thing around. Maybe Mimi'll buy him an attache case, so he can look as important as he feels. He's such a twit!!
You made my point, exactly. Min Chul would've never let Yon Soo get far. That little worm felt like he was controlling the situation, as if Min Chul ran out to meet her because he was worried Sun Jae was going to win her over. Get A Clue Buddy!!! Never happen!! Within a short time they'd have found their way back to each other. This guy's said the same thing to Yon Soo about moving out a day later and he wouldn't have given her up. Doesn't she have a choice?? She chose Min Chul, with all of his faults and she made that clear for him. Its like he thinks she'd say, "I can't have Min Chul, so I guess I'll go with you. Oh well...". Yeah that'd happen.
Jasy, I think that what went wrong was as far as Min Chul could see she was way to worried about his brother and that her standing him up that night was so out of line he couldn't get over it. I don't blame him for that. Every time it looked like they could build something more solid, Sun Jae stepped in and ruined it and Yon Soo helped him. Min Chul would then get closed off again and they almost had to start from the beginning. Yon Soo needed to get her priorities straight, if she wanted Min Chul to show her the love and acceptance she needed, to give her confidence.
He backed off and became aloof because of her and no matter how many times he told her, she didn't get it. Even up to the last moment together in that house, he tried to tell her to stop talking to him about Sun Jae and she looked at him like he was a monster. He told her in one scene that the thing he found attractive in her, her kindness, was what he found overbearing now. I get that. How about showing him some kindness while she has so much to go around.
I don't remember, when it all hits the fan and Min Chul's crying in her arms, does she still think he's not understanding enough of Sun Jae?? I haven't watched ahead that far. I think its interesting how she understands how Sun Jae's background colors all of his behavior. Does she know Min Chul's story? Does she think he's superhuman? Does she know the history of that family? I know she does. Doesn't she know that the effect that had on him, is what makes him so emotionally detached at times. How distrustful he is because of it? Does she know how hard he tries to open up to her, because he loves her?
She gives Sun Jae plenty of wiggle room, why not Min Chul? His closing himself off to her is her own fault. When she's feeling insecure, she should examine her own behavior and figure out what happened to make him do that. She'd stop saying, "I don't know what you mean." How many ways can he say what he means.
That confrontation from Sun Jae was not what he needed right now. I was glad he told him its who Yon Soo desires, not who can treat her better. Sun Jae is well aware who that person is. That should have shut him up, but this little idiot just doesn't get it.
I love the next scene between Min Chul and Min Ji. I'm going to watch it again and come back to finish up on episode 15. It may be the last happy moments for a while, so we'd better savor them.
I'll be back.
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Jongnam and Suky forever!!!!!
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