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Tushka
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Oh no! I see I have missed a lot over the past couple of weeks that I was away. When did DG deside he like Il-hong? Why is he marrying AY? How did that happen? He never even gives her the time of day.

Yeah, during the first few episodes I thought they would end up together, but fast forward, he still has no respect for her and speaks to her as if she is a child.

Oh well. Too bad no Friday night show.
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Why is DG going to marry Ayeong? My opinion is that his two experiences with love have been devastating to him, so he's going "safe" with an arranged marriage not involving his emotions.

First, the art teacher died (was it suicide involving his mother?) and left him alone with a broken heart that has consumed him for years. Now that he's again experiencing feelings of love and wanted Ilhong to stop him from going forward with Ayeong, he is understandably rejected by Ilhong (she isn't ready to face such a decision). Once burned, twice shy. Now that he feels he has struck out twice, he's going to his intellectual comfort zone and giving up on the whole process of being in love.

nsheldon, I agree that Mr. Seo is awfully placid (nice term for boring). However, if I saw it correctly, the Thursday night previews showed a burst of emotion from him. I'm looking forward to Monday!

A side comment on the costuming... I've really enjoyed seeing the very beautiful hanbok-type dresses Ayeong's grandmother wears. Such beautiful materials and styling. I'd love to hear the rustle of the silk as she walks.

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I think, several episodes back, when Ayeong propositioned DG with a "for show only" marriage, he saw his way out of an emotional attachment. Also, at that point, he hadn't realized he was falling in love with Ilhong, and his Father was nagging at him to get married. But it seems to be a running theme in K-Dramas that the wrong people are matched up by well meaning but mis-guided parents. But there seems to be a national weakness to "just say no!" It's like, they get engaged first, then see if they can fall in love. But I guess that's the plot, how to get out of a miserable situation. off topic, I love to see all the clothes on these shows, both modern and historical, whoever does costuming is wonderful!!
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Nchristi... Yes, Mr Seo DID show a burst of emotion, when he punched that silly a$$ed Namgi. Then a few minutes later Mr Seo was again the most boring human on earth.

I think Mr Seo does have feelings for Ilhong but she would have to make the first move because he is too shy to tell her his feelings. But let him sit back and watch another man step up. A man who is filled with passion!!!

Of course I'm talking about my DG. I just love his character. This guy who goes from vacuuming his car with gloved hands and a mask on to falling in love with a woman who has three kids is just fun to watch...

I agree that DG's agreeing to marry Ayeong was/is just a business deal and he agreed to that before he realized he had feelings for Ilhong. Not too sure about Ayeong's feelings though. She seems like she is interested in DG but then it also looks like she is just going along with her mother. Not too sure if I like Ayeong yet. Her 'role models' are her mother and her grandmother...

I have a problem with Ilhong's oldest daughter being so infatuated with DG. She is soooo young and he must be in his 30's. Ilhong was comforting her daughter over being rejected by DG when she should have tried to make her daughter realize she is too young to have a crush on someone that old. A red flag would have gone up in my head...

   



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I think Ilhong was just trying to validate her daughters feelings. She knows that in time she will recognize the improbability of there ever being a romantic relationship between them but for now, acknowledging her daughters feelings, IMHO, was a kind and nurturing move.
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I think I've finally given up on Namgi—at least for a long while. He is such a jerk. I've lost all patience with him. He will have to make some mighty big changes, but where there's no sense, there's no feeling.

The older daughter and DG - My first "real love" was when I was 8 years old and the object of my affections was a mid-20s apprentice butcher at the corner store! I was on Cloud 9 whenever he called me Rudolph—because my nose was so red in the winter snow. LOL! (Ahhh, the joys of an 8-year old heart!) An adult telling me the obvious might have done me more harm than good. (Regardless of age, humans never forget humiliation or embarrassment.)

I feel the same way about Ilhong's daughter. I think Ilhong was smart to honor and validate her daughter's feelings and pain. When the girl saw DG with a fiancée his own age, she already got the picture that she was too young and had been made a fool of by her own feelings. Ilhong trying to gently tell her that time will heal all, even though it's unbearably painful at this moment, was a positive, loving, and effective course of action.

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I don't find Mr. Seo particularly boring. To me, he's a proper gentleman who knows when to speak and when to act. His eyes and inner kindness emit much greater warmth and depth of character than most of the brash acting blowhards that need constant attention while continuing to self-promote and take pride in even their most irresponsible acts (Namgi boasting of how he'd scored with Ilhong before "Mr. Boring" put him in his place comes to mind.)

Although the oldest daughter will eventually get over DG and his misguided treatment of her, (he obviously cares for her as both the daughter of the woman he loves and as the person that she herself is) inflicting unneeded cruelty upon an impressionable, inexperienced child is akin to kicking a puppy dog for daring to wag it's tail. Let's see him try that garbage in front of Jinbong. Let's just see him try it........... emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon
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I agree with your description of Mr. Seo, robbo. Well said. As far as male characters go in this drama, he's actually my favorite. I'd rather spend a day exploring his mind and experience than five minutes with any of the others.

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Last night we have three drunk women (Ilhong, MIL, and best friend). They come home and are confronted by scary granny. She starts pulling MIL's hair and both best friend and Ilhong seems terrified.

Are they only showing respect to an elder or are they really afraid of her? I wish (at least) best friend would have been a bit more forceful in trying to get granny to leave. She wouldn't have to hit her but at least get in her face.

Mr Attorney is another one that acts like he's afraid of granny (and everyone else too).

This is still my favorite drama right now but there sure are a lot of silly people on it.

Did Namgi take those girls to the amusement park without permission? Isn't that kidnapping? I actually had to laugh because I really believe Namgi had the time of his life. He wasn't there to try to win the kids over (I don't think). I would have had him arrested though...



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watched an ep yesterday. Doesn't look like much has changed. Scary Granny is still terrorizing everyone, including the three stooges Ilhong, Liz, and BF (forgive me Larry, Curly and Moe) and they’re still putting up with it. The old geezer is still talking about a divorce, DG still can't act on his own behalf, and Namgi is still conning folks.. although now he’s even stooped to conning children…. Maybe next week…
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