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Last nite DG helped Ilhong get Sarang back and then ended up staying over to put up the tree he bought the kids. It was a beautiful time and Ilhong FINALLY showed her appreciation and affection for him (well, you saw it in her eyes anyway).

Seeing DG, Ilhong and the girls was so sweet. A very happy 'family' picture!! Loved it. Glad I taped it because I've watched it 10 times!! emoticon




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I'm really enjoying this series and attempting to keep away from the soompi thread which is far ahead of us on the west coast. It's nice to find that the show is fairly popular and that several castmembers have been well received by both the public and industry insiders. Both "Il-Hong" and "Jinbong" were finalist's at this years's KBS Awards and the girl who plays Sarang (Kim Yeh Won) walked away with the best young actress award. As her big innings are yet to come, it will be interesting to see how she compares with some of the other fine young talents who keep rolling off of the KDrama assembly line. emoticon

I only wish that they would end this no Fridays policy and stop cutting our 30 minute dramas down to 22 or 23 minutes. As there is no one uploading episodes on any site that I can find, (with subtitles, that is) I hate missing what I know I'm missing. emoticon

P.S. It was really cute hearing both Il-Hong and DG wishing each other a Merry Christmas in English. I am continuously amazed how many of background songs are Korean English language recordings of American or British pop songs. Apparently they know a whole lot more about us than we do about them. Kudos to the "hallyu" wave for washing itself upon our shores.
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Robbo: I'm sure glad someone else is enjoying this drama. I was beginning to think I was alone.. LOL...

I have been cheating because this is on early Sat morning (7:45) on KBS World. I tried to stop myself but I have no will power so ......

Everyone is right. Whatever is going on now seems to continue even after episode 130. Things do change and move forward but very slowly. And it seems for every step forward there are two steps backward.

I totally love Ilhong and DG together. His transformation from a stuffy selfish person to a warm kind loving man is beautiful to me.

I watched that same scene another 10 times this weekend. DG puts up the Christmas tree and they all seem so lively and happy together. DG wishing Ilhong a Merry Christmas and her wishing him the same. They looked like the happiest family.

I know much of this is totally unrealistic. I mean, how can one old mean lady and her equally mean daughter create such pain and misery for so many? Especially the way these two go about it. They act brutish and everyone cringes and shakes in their presence. If either of them came to my house and acted like that.......





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Was last night the turning point for Namgi to finally get on the road to reform? He can't sleep and laments his worthless life, remembering how he felt renewed when he was first released from prison. But now he describes himself as just a parasite attached to Ilhong. Mr. Seo came through for him, the good-hearted soul that he is. I'm hoping Namgi will finally get it all together this time.

Speaking of speaking English... They ought to reserve all the English lines for Mr. Min, the lawyer! He was perfect, wasn't he?

DG is getting more interesting. He and Ilhong make a cute couple. His mother reminds me of some sort of baboon with a huge mane. Or maybe last night she was doing an imitation of Grizabella from "Cats." But she is, after all, a FAMOUS ARTIST, so she can do her hair and clothes however she wants and it is automatically "fashionable."

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Ayeong is truly a product of her mother and grandmother...don't you see real trouble on the horizon coming from her facade of contentedness?
I would have expected a little jealousy from Ilhong's daughter when she noticed the attraction between Ilhong and DG but she seems to be handling it rather well...actually encouraging the relationship.
Can someone explain what pensions are supposed to mean in the context of this drama?
DG's mom is all about the status and the financial security. She doesn't have a ounce of love or concern for her son...what a pity.
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I also wondered what pensions meant. I figured it had something to do with Ilhong's contract with ACE Design. Remember she at first wanted to cancel and pay the fine? Now she wants to honor the existing contract. Maybe that has something to do with pension? emoticon

Ayeong is definitely a product of her mother/grandmother. And what a shame because I think she has the capability of being a lovely person. I think she may be attracted to DG. Or maybe it's a case of wanting what you can't have?

It was heartbreaking how honest DG was with Ilhong last nite. He told her how he was rejected/neglected by both parents. ANd he was honest about having a fear of loving her and being a father to her children.

ALSO.... I didn't realize DG was younger than Ilhong. His mother said Ilhong was always going after younger men. I think DG, Ilhong and those girls make a beautiful family.

I was surprised as well at how easily the oldest daughter accepts DG being her mother's boyfriend. Good for her.



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You know, Ilhong may be stupid but she's not the only one. That attorney is stupid. Gramps is beyond stupid. Namgi is right up there too.

I feel bad because DG, in his innocence, believes he is taking Ilhong to meet his uncle and that uncle will see how much he loves Ilhong and support them. I think uncle is just as greedy and money hungry as DG's mother. I think poor DG and Ilhong are in for it tonight.

DG's uncle knows that, unless DG marries Ayeong he will lose out on Furniture Master. They need that business and they need DG to be it's president.

DG and Ilhong are so cute together. He still looks mighty stuffy to me but he is smiling all the time now.

I can almost understand DG's mom not wanting him with Ilhong. Her reasons aren't really genuine or out of love for her son. She wants her son to own Furniture Master. But if I think about it...

Here is her son, in love with an older woman who has three children. The children all have different fathers. This woman's MIL is having an affair with a married man. Ilhong doesn't look too good on paper. But if DG's mom was interested in her son's happiness she would see that there is none better than Ilhong.



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It's true that Ilhong's daughters have three different fathers but it is only the youngest that was conceived in "ignorance" Remember her husband died tragically and Sarang isn't her bio daughter. She seems to be a good person with a caring heart that always seems to receive the consequences that others should be receiving. Iff uncle is smart, he will take note of how Ilhong pulled herself up from destitution and built the company (a successful one at that) that she owns today...no small feat in any country.
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Yeah, I remember about the kids. But I was looking at it through DG's mother and uncle's eyes. They could care less about that.

All these two have talked about was getting Furniture Master. The only way to secure it is to have DG marry Ayeong. The uncle seemed just as greedy as DG's mom.

I hope the uncle sees in Ilhong what DG sees but .....



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"Pensions" refers to the large apartment buildings with the model units ACE is furnishing, the ones we've seen from the beginning of the drama.

ROK (So. Korea) has a national pension plan somewhat similar to our Social Security, which is funded by workers and probably business, too. The National Pension Service collects tons of money and invests it both domestically and internationally, just as pension funds here in the U.S. are invested in diverse instruments.

Some of the Korean National Pension Service domestic investments are in real estate. The term "pension(s)" has come to mean both the apartment/condo buildings or the individual units in these buildings. Most are large high-rise apartments, such as ACE is furnishing models for in our drama.

Back to the story, I'm glad Namgi told Mr. Seo what he knows about the Sarang scandal and his wife's involvement. At least now we know that Ilhong and DG probably won't be blindsided on that issue.

I am so worn out these days by all the screeching and yelling women in both "Innocent Woman" and "Likable or Not" that I watch most of the episode with the TV on mute. I love seeing Ilhong and DG together, though. Both of them have changed. Ilhong is getting a little more backbone and seems less goofy and scatterbrained these days, while DG is certainly being softened up by love.

It was so sad to hear of DG's background. It made me tear up to hear of him being so ignored as a child, sitting in closets for days with nobody even noticing he wasn't around anywhere. Having a loving, affectionate person like Ilhong is the perfect antedote for him, not to mention the girls who are warm and affectionate with him, too.

I don't know what to think about the Old Geez quadrangle (Mom, Dad, Daughter, and Ms. Sim/Sarang). The women in his family certainly are not likable, but neither can I be enthusiastic or supportive of the way Old Geez is trying to dump his wife and live happily ever after with Ms. Sim and Sarang. Geez and Sim are doing nothing more than causing horrible pain for other people: for his family, for Ilhong and her family, and for Sarang.

I think it is only right that Sarang eventually know who her bio-mother and father are, but it is cruel, stupid and incredibly selfish the way they are going about it. Many a night lately I wish 7:30–7:50p were an "adult free" zone. In the Korean sense of the term "adult," that is! LOL!

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