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Smoochie I had to laugh when I read your post earlier emoticon I think on KBS World we are at the same ep or close. I feel the same way as you do!! I think we only have about two weeks left . I only watch this when I am getting up in the morning because it is on early here. I have stuck it out this long now I have to see what happens to these people. I am begining to think this writer has taken on a personal challenge to throw in every drama cliche possible before this one is over. Almost everything I can think of ,barring a natural disaster has happened to Ilhong and the group. emoticon

I have seen quite a few K-dramas in the last couple of years and I can't think a family I have disliked more than the whole Seo/OG family. I cringe when they are on screen. I agree with you Nchristi that HM (Ilhong's oldest daughter) is the smartest of this whole bunch, maybe she takes after her father?! Poor girl!!

Nchristi I know someone mentioned on another thread they though the "Fancy Pants" was in Over The Rainbow as Hwanee's manager, but that is not the same actor as FP . I haven't seen FP in anything else since then but Lee Pil Mo is the drama that will follow Likeable or Not and he is also in musical in Korea right now. FP may have gotten the girl in River but it looks like LPM got the career!! emoticon

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class blockquote pooka67 wrote:

I have seen quite a few K-dramas in the last couple of years and I can't think of a family I have disliked more than the whole Seo/OG family. I cringe when they are on screen.
Oh, no! And to think I can't take much more now! emoticon Maybe I'll just change my point of view and start seeing this as a comedy and exercise in using trite cliché! Then it won't annoy me. class blockquote Nchristi I know someone mentioned on another thread they though the "Fancy Pants" was in Over The Rainbow as Hwanee's manager, but that is not the same actor as FP . I haven't seen FP in anything else since then but Lee Pil Mo is the drama that will follow Likeable or Not and he is also in musical in Korea right now. FP may have gotten the girl in River but it looks like LPM got the career!! emoticon Thanks for the info, pooka. Yeah, I remember the manager in OTR. You're right... he's not FP. But he was the guy in the TV Novel shortly before "River," the one with the painting of the wildflowers, I believe.

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Oh, no! And to think I can't take much more now! Maybe I'll just change my point of view and start seeing this as a comedy and exercise in using trite cliché! Then it won't annoy me.

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Bingo!! emoticon Pretty nearly all of these family, formula, and comedy-laced dramas are written, performed and presented exactly as that. They can, and do, provide us with repeated examples situational irony, moral dilemma, and characters learning lessons while attempting to navigate through the gray areas which we can be faced with in life; but with a clear cut choice about which is right and which is the wrong choice. If any of us is waiting for this approach to these types of drama to change, we'll be waiting a long, long time.

I know that I'm pretty much the panel's resident "bleeding heart", but it often drives me to distraction to see comments made by viewers as to the "stupidity" or "cowardliness" of characters (clearly the ones representing the better angels of society) that are in conflict as to how to resolve situations according to what is traditional and honorable, while attempting to choose the option that will most likely cause the least amount of co-lateral damage. If you can't please all of the people, one is duty bound to protect those who are the weakest and most vulnerable. That, in essence and actual practice, is what each of the heroes and heroines in these stories is compelled to do. I enjoy these types of dramas because, in the end, the "good guys" always do win. That is how life would be in the best of all worlds. The historical dramas, while beautifully photographed, costumed, and acted, hold much less interest for me as the cruelty of those in power is all too real, and too much like the reality from which the sort of "mindless" comedy/dramas that I prefer offer to me an escape from.

We each get to choose our own likes and dislikes, but, nearly always, the writers have clearly outlined (to those of whom are following along closely enough) which characters are wearing which color of hat. Innocence does not, in any way, represent stupidity. Ignorance; maybe, but stupidity; never. Evil, on the other hand, is calculated and unrelenting. It moves like a snake through the grass and attacks it's prey without compassion, and with extreme prejudice.

I'd much rather see the good change bad than the have it other way around. emoticon
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That was me who thought FP was the same guy in River and Overt The Rainbow. Thanks for clarifying!

Even though things keep happening on this story, it really just stays the same. Ilhong is sweet as can be but I sure would like to see her get in the face of Mrs Seo and her mother! I'm so tired of both those women going around making threats.

Ayeong, who I hoped would be more like her father, seems to be no different than her mother and grandmother.

Watching DG making dinner with the girls.... priceless.


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Vanessave: I didn't know you watched this (even sporadically).. Are you planning on joining us in L.A.? I hope so..
unfortunately, I do catch it but it is far from a favorite. There really aren't too many characters to like or even pull for in this one. Ilhong is sweet but she is a doormat. She should definitely be more protective of her girl but she is too busy trying not to make waves that she really doesn't protect them all that well. She doesn't take a stand and just stands around teary eyed. It is great to be kind but she is a mother of 3 and can't try to please the world and be there for her children at the same time.



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Okay, here we go again! Ayeong overhears and assumes Ilhong and Namgi were married. I rolled my eyes at that, wondering how many more of the males in the cast we'll have to endure this same misunderstanding over. Well, we've still got all the guys who work in her furniture factory. So, just as she gets closer to DG, another man can be whipped out with whom Ilhong might have had an affair—in the eyes of others. Of course, there's always the little factoid that Jinsol (sp?) is Namgi's daughter! That's just a teensy weensy bit hard to explain away now, isn't it?!

I no longer feel at all sorry for Ilhong. As K-drama frequently reminds us, karma strikes again. She needs to stand up for herself and her children, face the truth in all her situations, and maintain her own integrity. Until she does that, she'll continue to be the habitual loser we've seen her to be all along. Being nice, warm, and affectionate are admirable qualities, but the fact is Ilhong has herself invited all these woes into her life by her mindless choices. People change when the pain becomes too great. Guess she hasn't reached that point, yet.

 



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I think Ilhong is good as gold. I'd say she wasn't that bright but she did manage to get herself off the streets and start her own business. She has worked hard and has provided a nice home for her family.

Ayeong has turned out to be a big disappointment. I was so hoping she would be more like her father. She is her mother's daughter!.

I like watching DG interact with Ilhong and her girls. I love the transformation they did with this guy.... from snooty and cold hearted to a warm and tender hearted family man. I love to see his face every time he sees Ilhong or one of the girls. Ilhong and those girls are 'home' to him.



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 emoticon Not much discussion on this drama going on. Has everyone stopped watching it?

I must admit, I'm getting sick & tired of Ilhong crying. I don't think that there has been 1 episode where she doesn't cry. She needs to stop being sooooooooo nice, and fight back.

Granny, granny's daughter, granny's granddaughter and DG's mom all are B****'S!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope by the end of this show they get whats coming to them for being so evil.
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I think we're all still watching, but what is there to say? At least that's my feeling about it.

Everything is so repetitive in this drama that remarks I would post would be things that have already been said a million times before by all of us. Ilhong is good and always falsely accused. Ilhong cries. Ilhong and DG love one another but are thwarted by the scheming women in their lives. Ilhong cries some more. Namgi continues to cause trouble. Pretty and he are still conning people. Mr. Min is still the double-dealing lawyer. Old Geez is still dreaming and plotting. Yawn.....

But I suppose repetition is better than letting the thread just die all by itself.

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I am also sick of this soap. Will stop watching it. For the first time, I watched a Korean movie (DVD) titled
Sad Love Song. Very, very good. Tear jerker. I love the leading man, Kwon Sang-Woo. He is so cute and very good actor. Is there anybody out there that can tell me where I can rent Korean DVD's?? This one I borrowed from a friend. I live in the San Gabriel Valley. Please help me. I'm now addicted to these shows.
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