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You are right, Hyena and Nchristi. Choi Ji Woo and Yoo Ji Tae are convincing in portraying a couple who is very much in love with each other. In fact, their portrayal of being in love is so strong that I never feel Eun Young and Woo Jin are even a threat to their relationship. Up to this episode, no one can seem to be able to come between them. The only threat to their relationship is their own-self: their insecurity and their own perception of what it means to love the other person.
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A couple things from Episode 13

Before the scene of Scammer Mom showing up to take Yuri to the States... class ul Chulsu is walking down the street and passes his mother without speaking. She stops him, wants to talk. On a park bench she tells him she met with EunYong, that she‛s a ‛good girl,‛ the type woman he needs, and one Mom wants him to marry. She also tells CS that she told EY he will come back to her (EY). CS doesn‛t waste his energy arguing with her—or even replying. Her advice to him, however, is to ‛not think too much and do what your heart tells you.‛ She goes on to say that life is easy, one must simply take responsibility for one‛s actions. CS has contempt for the hypocrisy of that statement coming from her lips. Mom tells him she wants to take Yuri to the States because she needs surgery. If money is set aside for that she wants to take it and use it for Yuri‛s surgery. CS didn‛t expect to hear this but just sits there with his mouth open.I had to laugh when EY visits LM and pulls out the envelope containing the manuscript for Chulsu's novel. That novel must be mighty short! LOL! The title is Dancing People.

On to Episode 14 tomorrow night...



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Tonight I thought the episode was a bit farfetched. Too much back and forth between Mari and Chul Su. At least, she kept on asking the same question over and over...'Why Are you doing this' etc....

Also..Woo Jin...son of Yonsama.. EEWW!!!!


That man Suh is pure evil.

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It wasn't that much different from so many other k-dramas. It has slowed down a bit, that's true. And I really get tired of characters who promise the world, then get cold feet. But the dialog still holds me, as well as the two leads, who have really good chemistry.

Chulsu doesn't follow his emotions, usually. Mari changed that. I loved that bit of dialog where he tells her "I can't think when I'm around you."

And when he came upon his mother in Yuri's room and learned she had spoken to Mari, I felt really bad for him. If circumstances had been different, I might have some sympathy for Mom. But she left those two kids, just dropped out of their lives. She paid Chulsu off. Being a k-drama, she still has rights, but not in my book.

I was ready to dislike the old boyfriend, but I can see why he left. I sure hope Suh really pays for what he has done.
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When the three aunties were in bed, the two younger ones questioning whether LM and CS would break up, I think Elder Auntie hit the nail on the head—it's Chulsu's attitude. He won't ever succeed with any woman with his attitude being what it is.

Couldn't agree more! The thing that irritates me most about Chulsu is what a stubborn, unreasonable, emotional moron he can be. It takes him too long to figure stuff out and in the meantime he blames his confusion and unhappiness on Mari, as though she has somehow betrayed him. Oh, please... If it weren't for her always trying to absorb the initial standoff and get through to him, this relationship would crash and burn in no time flat.

So, Chulsu needs time to think. Fine. Since when does weighing a decision grant license to treat LM so coldly, ignoring her calls, her text messages, her knocking and knocking at his door just to try to talk with him?! This has happened several times in this drama. CS doesn't recognize the true source of his anxiety. Consequently, he dumps his frustration and anger on her by mistreating her until she—or some other outside force—gets through to him that his anger is misplaced and unfairly destructive. class blockquote Peg wrote:
Also..Woo Jin...son of Yonsama.. EEWW!!!!
LOL! Couldn't agree with you more, Peg. That guy with his greasy, pasty white looking face (like cheap makeup) and clashing lipstick is a real turn off to me. And his hair! Guess that must be his Japanese ronin look to convince us he's been in Japan for a number of years.

Looks like there were some deleted scenes in this one. Like, what happened to Yuri when Mom dragged her out of there a week ago? How'd she get so sick with fever, etc.? And what about Yuri's surgery money that Mom scarfed up? Appears to have disappeared. I'll take a look at the unedited version and see what we missed here.

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What was deleted is of little consequence...

Episode 14 class ul Eunyong at night going up the stairs to her apartment. The two young paparazzi jump out and start taking pictures of her. She stops and calmly tells them they work very hard in the cold. But she will sue them if they ever take pictures of her again like this.

EY at a postal shipping office, calls her father in Japan. She has just mailed CS‛s manuscript to him, thanking him for listening to her ‛request.‛
Other than that, there were a few brief scenes like LM reading CS's manuscript in bed. Just filler like that.

Well, SBS is editing out very little, which is a huge plus compared to what we get from KBS, even on their 4x's per week fare.

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I think that the WooJin hairstyle is copying that of BYJ to the T. Except not quite as long and untidy. They did not have the nerve to make him wear glasses I guess !!

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Once you watch Philip Choi for a bit, he loses all resemblance to BYJ, especially once they changed his makeup to a more natural look.

I don't see Chulsu quite the way you do, nchristi, although I can see your point. He just seems like a korean male to me (I think that's probably a double whammy, korean and male! LOL), with the added problems he acquired because his parents deserted him. Mari's problem is that men fall all over her, so she just expected him to do the same, at least at some level.

I really fell off the wagon on this one. I was going to watch just when it aired, but I caved last night and watched almost to the end (I admit it--I just LOVE watching the two of them whether they're loving each other or fighting, LOL!!!!). I may post here, because I'll still watch it on Friday evening, but I'll be careful!
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Episode 15. It is getting more difficult for me to sit through this one. Last night's episode was so cornball and overly melodramatic in a couple places that I found myself laughing aloud. The ending was its only redeeming quality—thank goodness for that!

General impressions... The CS/FL (First Love) Woojin stuff in the beginning was so silly that I found myself wishing Mari would go to Destiny Woojin and forget about both CS and FL-Woojin. Thankfully by the end I changed my mind when CS redeemed himself as the stronger, more determined man in LM's life. Finally he realizes his true feelings for Mari when he writes the captions for the photos FL-Woojin had given him at the café.

FL-Woojin brings a bag of vanilla ice cream to the rooftop?! Groan. We had emphasis on his cooking—does this actor appear on one of the Seoul cooking shows?

Glad to see FL-Woojin get a new hairdo! Guess the fans must have had their say for the switch to the shorter, more hip wig he's now sporting.

What a surprise that Yerin and Jongsoo (Mr. Bodyguard) spent the night together after she got drunk at her birthday party! On the other hand, looks as though Jongsoo was just yanking her chain about them having slept together (conversation in stairwell at work). We find out last night he lives with his mother. Yerin slept off her drunk (drunk #2) all alone. (I think there was a deleted scene last night where Yerin walks in on Reporter at TS office. He's coming very close to figuring out that President Suh has deliberately published exposé articles in a fake newspaper, articles against two of his 'stars' to force them back into line with his wishes. YR walks in, realizes Reporter is hiding something so they go out for drinks so she can pump him for the info. They both get raging drunk, Reporter goes to the restroom. While he's gone, Bodyguard comes in—she had texted him—and takes her home to his place again to sleep it off. We then see her waking up in a strange bedroom....)

FL-Woojin is a 'ticking timebomb.' I laughed at that one, especially since they gave us a never before seen 'flashback' after having mislead us into condemning LM for having FL-Woojin staying at her place while CS is put on the back burner. (Guess they haven't heard of surgery for aortic aneurysm.)

Five episodes to go. I'm beginning to agree with some others that 20 episodes is a little long for a drama like this. Sixteen would probably have been about right, especially since we see only one per week.

One thing about the Chulsu actor is that he did an especially credible job in displaying his character's emotions in this episode. I found him very realistic and less theatrical than some actors. Nice touches in scenes such as when he comes home to the restaurant, with EY and the aunties all aglow about his short story published in the mag. He's had a particularly distressing day and shows his controlled annoyance perfectly.

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I agree, nchristi. This one started out with a lot of promise, but has fallen off sharply. I think the actors are doing a good job, and I like several of the characters, but the writing has deteriorated. What a shame.

It would have been good if they'd stopped at 12 episodes, I think. Either that, or developed the storyline about the control exerted by Suh over Mari and other actors in his agency.
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