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Wow, this drama has everything. I felt for the NK refugees illegally staying in China. I believe this part of the drama is very true.

smoochie, isn't SJS wonderful in his acting. I just hope the writer would not go too off the reality. The veggie director can be brought back (at least his eyes could focus, it seems) after being out for so long is beyond belief. But it's a drama... I have no complaint.

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I guess that was Ep/4 last night. I am somewhat bemused that Cho In can operate in that filty warehouse and bring that poor soul to life so easily...but h himselfe had worse injuries and was dragged over sanddunes and he does not seem to have had any medical treatment and he is perfectly fine. Mystery to me.

I do hope they will tone down some of the violence. I am sure it happens but it is taking away time when we could be seeing some good acting going on.

I don't like the filthy looks of Jisub but I do like his longer hair. He looks much too young with the short haircut..

So we have a father and a son who both have had brain surgeries. Leaping ahead I imagine that Cho In will operate on them both and bring them back to normal. Makes sense to me. It's a drama.....

Lots to happen in between.

nchristi... I thought that the guys who saved Cho In were North Koreans who had escaped to China and were trying to get to S.Korea by trading drugs for money. Dicey business.

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I watched ep 4 online and I'm glad they don't cut that much. Only 2 scenes which weren't that important at all.



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I still can't believe the brother died... I thought he would go all the way to the end of the drama. This is just sad.

You know at the end of ep 1, wasn't Cho In shot like twice? How come he was still alive after being shot?

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class blockquote brad6 wrote.

nchristi... I thought that the guys who saved Cho In were North Koreans who had escaped to China and were trying to get to S.Korea by trading drugs for money. Dicey business.
I believe that was the case, however, it didn't seem to be common knowledge with the one traitor that killed the leader of the team...he seemed to want to just make money but return to N. Korea.

I must retract some of my earlier comments as I thought Queen Evil Admin was the bio mother of both boys...now I know why her ambitions and hatred are so fierce.

I am just wondering if the reason the dad sent the eldest to study neurology was perhaps because he already knew of his own medical history/future and knew that his eldest was capable and could return to the states to help him. And perhaps his strong desire for the youngest son to specialize in emergency/trauma has ties to the boy's mother's history and lack of adequate help or facilities. Just a thought.

It does go to show the powerful effects a spirit of revenge and resentment can cause.

Does anyone know how accurate the portrayal of the reunification of the N.Korean refugees was?

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I hope we've seen the end of all this Chinese/DPRK stuff and can get on with the story in South Korea. Too much violence and ugly goings-on for my tastes. So far, this drama is so unpleasant in nearly all aspects that I find it an ordeal to sit through.

Most of the characters are rather unlikeable, too. Besides the obviously nasty people here, the next person I'd like to forget about is the fiancée. I can't take that chick. She is cold, pathetic, and insensitive. If she loved SunWoo so much seven years ago, how could she treat him so horribly now? I don't get it. So much for "true love." Even if she loves only Cho In these days, a half-way decent person would at least be civil to SunWoo and try to avoid hurting him further, especially when she knows how much he still loves her. Nope. Don't like this girl at all...

As for SunWoo, he is doing some dastardly things, yet he has been treated so cruelly by his father since he was five, and has the influence of his horrible mother that it is understandable he turned out the way he did. I find myself torn between dislike and empathy. Plus, I love Shin Hyun Jun and really enjoy watching him in any role he plays. That's always a big factor!

I like the Young-ji character but find her accent a big turn-off. Reminds me of Bori in "My Precious You." There's just something about that particular accent that really grates on my nerves.

Sorry for all the complaining. But this is exactly the state this drama is leaving me in each week! I sincerely hope it turns a new direction with this next episode. class blockquote curly carrot wrote:

Does anyone know how accurate the portrayal of the reunification of the N.Korean refugees was?
Not quite sure what you're asking here. "Reunification" in the Korean context refers to the political talks/plan to try to re-form North Korea and South Korea into one country, under a single government instead of the present ROK (Seoul) and DPRK (Pyongyang).

If you're asking about the violence and conditions portrayed in the 'prison,' there's probably a basic truth in there somewhere. (Look at Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, and many other hell holes in this world.) Until recently, even the regular South Korean army came under public and political fire for its abuse of it's own troops. A number of inductees had died due to the extremely harsh treatment of some soldiers.

In our drama, the North Korean official who captured Kang Chul took them to a Chinese "military detention center." China has an agreement with North Korea to return all defectors. Kang Chul was a defecting member of the North Korean Surveillance team, someone the North Korean government would not want to make it to South Korea and who would be treated very harshly as a traitor when he was returned to North Korea. (I just read of a man who could not get a divorce in DPRK, took up with another woman and was sentenced to 10-15 years in a hard labor camp.)

At any rate, onward and upward....

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I was finally beginning to really get into this drama. Before it was a bit too fantastic and very brutal and gory. However now it began to settle down to telling the tale.
I was posting on this on the Jisub site and you can imagine my dismay when someon posted photos of the FINAL scene. I made note of the fact that this was a spoiler ...but after that more people posted all about the ending which really has taken the edge off this drama for me.
Why are people so thoughtless.

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I watched this drama tonight and it is getting more interesting. Lots of twists and turns. Now we have a former neuro surgeon who has amnesia. He thinks he is a North Korean but that is all. I will stick with this just for Jisub. He does make a very good heroic figure. Very rough and tough but I am sure he will come out of it be the end.
 I wonder if he knows anything about the Method acting that was so popular. I guess it still is at the Actors Studio in NYC. I rather think he must use the other Sense Memory method since he has had a varied life and has changed his personality in some ways. I think he digs deep into himself for these serious dramatic roles.

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I was referring to how Youngi was treated when she arrived in South Korea. The "camp/school" that they put her in and the benefits thereof.
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In last night's episode I was wondering what's up with the lack of fingerprints? You mean they only have fingerprints for the thumb of the right hand? A little far-fetched it seems to me. class blockquote curly carrot wrote:

I was referring to how Youngi was treated when she arrived in South Korea. The "camp/school" that they put her in and the benefits thereof.
That's how it is.

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