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My first reaction to the final episode was one of substantial disappointment. So, I watched it again on-line, the unedited version. Giving myself some time and trying to keep my mind open made a difference in my final assessment.

Shin Hyun Joon was the star of this one, in my opinion. Great performance. So Ji Sub is a little too one-dimensional in this one—but that may be due to the way the character is written and directed. I thought Han Ji Min as Youngji was very good. And, of course, Kwon Hae Hyo and Ha Yoo Mi as the anesthesiologist and head of emergency were super as the older love couple. In fact, to me the highlight of the final episode was when he flashes the engagement ring in the black box to her, she grabs it and runs off with him chasing her! LOL! Perfect proposal and acceptance for these two characters.

As for the story itself, I thought the ending was a little cheesy. They held us in emotional suspended animation till the very end—What was Choi In's real motive in making the choices he did during the operation? Why was Sunwoo paralyzed and unable to speak? Was it accidental or deliberate?

The e-subs and lack of editing in the on-line version made it all much clearer. Regardless of what the operation outcome would be, it was already a fact that Sunwoo would have no longer than two-years to live. The operation would simply make those two-years more comfortable for him and give him the best shot at having two years instead of dying much sooner.

I didn't buy the mother's complete change of heart. Regretting what her actions caused for her beloved Sunwoo was believable. But now wanting ChoIn to view her and love her as his mother was a little far-fetched.

When Cho In went to the country to get Youngji, that was another scene that was silly to me. Appearing at the top of the knoll, looking at him standing there, I was waiting for a closeup to see if he had bolts on the sides of his neck. I'm also not a big fan of designer combat boots.

So, in the end everybody comes back to life and is with the person they love. Best part of all that was Shin Hyun Joon's acting skills. Also very much liked his short hair cut—the sanitarium clip. He looks good like that. But throughout this drama I was always noticing what beautiful hair he has.

As for So Ji Sub, somewhere in the universe there must be a hair style that complements his face and stature. This one wasn't it. I also greatly disliked the make-up artist's attempt through make-up to give him a double-eyelid look. Very distracting. His natural eyes are quite lovely just the way they are and I wish they had not tried to make them something they aren't.

Bottom line on this drama is that it started out very well, riveting our attention. Somewhere along the way, it took a wrong turn and got sidetracked. It came in with a bang but went out with a whimper.
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I have written about this on the JSA Addicts site and forum. I was totally shocked that that was the last episode. I quite expected another episode last night. For me this drama is unfinished.

This was the most ridiculous ending to this drama. The writers just chickened out and could not make a real ending.
When you think back to the beginning. Those horrendous brutal things that happened to Cho In , arranged by his 'mother'. She had committed three murders. Now she is sorry????? Please. Then the way he was deserted in the N.Korean prison by Sun Woo. it does not make sense to have Cho In stand back and then finally step in to do the operation. That could have been done just as well by the other surgeon who worked with Sun Wo.

Of course he did not do the surgery he could have done. Of course he knew what would happen to his brother. That was deliberate. However, the writers then could not let that rest ,or else Cho In would really be the villain. So he has to make soppy mental speeches and visit his brother and stand there looking daft. The two women standing like ajumas in the background and Sun Woo convulsing in tears. It flattened like a spent balloon.


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The mother is not the one who had all the horrible things happen to Cho In in China. It was Director Oh. Mom only wanted Cho In out of town during a crucial board vote, I believe it was. The evil director told Mom she wouldn't have to worry about ChoIn showing up. She was somewhat shocked that Director Oh didn't detain ChoIn but had him kidnapped and killed.

I believe that ChoIn did his very best in the surgery on Sunwoo. Leaving a part of the edge of the tumor intact, I believe, was to spare Sunwoo from unnecessary peripheral brain damage, since that part of the tumor had mixed in with brain tissue and couldn't easily be extracted without damaging healthy brain tissue. When he was silently replying to his father's request to 'save' Sunwoo, he didn't say that he would not save him, but that he was unable to grant the father's request for the first time in his life. My take on that scene was that it was physically impossible to save Sunwoo. SW was 'unsaveable' due to the nature of his tumor itself.

I thoroughly believe that Cho In would never take revenge on his brother through deliberately leaving cancer there in order to kill him. He simply is not that sort of person, regardless of what others had done to him. He would never be able to live with himself if he had stooped to what his step-mother and brother had done to him. Thus, I believe he did his very best work for Sunwoo as his surgeon, just as the anesthesiologist remarked. The female resident surgeon's comments about CI not finishing the surgery properly were, in my opinion, a device the writer used to keep us confused and mislead us.

Each viewer has his/her own viewpoint. This is just the way I see it.
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My take is slightly different with regard to the mother. She instigated the original plan to get Cho In to China. This was to get him out of the way for the meeting to put the Surgical Building into plan. She was soon aware that Cho In would be killed and indeed thought he had been killed and she went along with the phony funeral. She had already killed his parents when he was an infant. In my estimation she was also guilty of the murder of Cho In.

I agree that Cho In did the finest surgery possible, but at the same time he knew that Sun Woo would be in a vegetative state probably. if he removed all the tumorous tissue there was the chance Sun Woo could die. Indeed he paused to think of how to proceed during the actual operation. This is what caused the female surgeon to voice her thoughts later but she was immediately shot down by the other surgeon. Sun Woo's mother also knew that any surgery would only give him a couple of years to live without pain and she knew also that Sun Woo wanted the surgery done by Cho In. Sun Woo knew the odds.
In some of his unspoken thoughts Cho In was quite taken with vengeance when he was thinking about his mother and his brother and what had happened to him in China. He certainly had to think hard to keep from that vengeance . To me that seemed very natural ,but the writers did not follow through in a straight line with him at all. They softened everyone, whether in actions or words or how they were treated. It defied the line of the story from the beginning. What I think should have strengthened as a heavy dramatic finale was turned into something that was 'neither fish. nor fowl. nor good red herring'. That's the way it seemed to me. Not a very good drama really despite the good actors. Definitely not the best that Jisub could have done for waiting four years to do a drama after military service.

The film 'Rough Cut' was likewise a very heavy drama but from what I have heard it is very good. It is being shown in the Asian film Festival in NYC this month. and Jisub will be there.

He also has a Chinese film which will soon be out. He has been busy.

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I think we're to believe that Cho In's integrity as a surgeon wouldn't allow him to do anything but his best in his brother's sugery. The character was shown as very principled and honorable from the start of the drama. He was supposed to be the good guy. For him to take revenge meant his NOT doing the surgery. Once he took scalpel in hand he was beholden to do his utmost. I guess that's what we're supposed to believe.

I think Ji Sub was wasted in this too. I'm sure he played this character as the director wanted him to. Shin Hyun Joon stole this drama. I liked his new haircut too and his whole look throughout. Plus he's a very good actor.

That's a very funny observation Brad6, "The two women standing like ahjummas.." You're right.

So Ji Sub is a fine actor and I hope his next endeavor gives him an opportunity to show his skills. I saw Rough Cut and loved him in it. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but Ji Sub is very good in it and so is his costar, whose name escapes me at the moment. They both won an award for this.

Ji Sub in NYC this month, hmmm.. emoticon Nah, I'm too old to fight all of the fans. I'd sure like to see him up close though.

City Hall started immediately in Cain and Abel's place here on Thursday night. I don't really know anything about it. We'll see.

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I am hoping to see ROUGH CUT in the near future.
I think the actor who played the 'actor' in the' Movie is Movie' is Kang Ji Hwan. Not positive. He is cute. I think he was also in 'More Beautiful than a flower' as the youngest son. Also in 'Capitol Scandal'. Very funny if I am thinking of the correct drama.

He is a fine actor and I think would be perfect playing opposite Jisub.

If I were in NYC now I would hire a burly bodyguard and go to the Asian Festival the night that Jisub was there...

CLEAR THE WAY. THE WELSH WITCH IS HERE!!!!!!!!!!

Even Jisub would be impressed.


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Too Funny!! emoticon
CLEAR THE WAY. THE WELSH WITCH IS HERE!!!!!!!!!!

You're right the actor is Kang Ji Hwan and I have seen him in quite a few things. I think he was really good in Rough Cut. He and Ji Sub played very well off each other. They were both something to see. Ji Sub was playing an interesting character. I loved him in this.


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WOW..!!!!!!!! Are those tw ogreat pictures. Hottie is the word.

AND..

Have I got a hottie for you.


   YOO GUN...

He was in HELLO GOD and played a young man who was mentally disabled. He was operated upon and became a genius. I think this was a Korean take on 'FLOWERS FOR ALGERNON' and a US TV take on that called 'CHARLIE' some years ago.
Anyway it is a difficult role and he was extremely good. He is so good looking and has the greatest smile. He is also a singer I think but I have not seen him in anything else. He has done other stuff. Hard to find a picture of him.
He is a Hottie for sure.

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Peg,

You'd think I wouldn't know him, right? But, of course I do and yes he is a hottie. A very young hottie, but a hottie nonetheless. I first spotted him in Bad Couple and was taken by his looks. Of course I have pictures of him. How about that picture of Ji Sub!? He is gorgeous too, don't you think? And Kang Ji Hwan isn't too shabby either. emoticon

Here you go! Enjoy!
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So smoochie, you have a So Ji Sub file? You know how I feel about him and his acting. Great picture!! Kang Ji Hwan was great playing opposite Ji Sub. How about that mud fight, they were exhausted filiming that. I think I'll have to watch Rough Cut all over again, it was that good.

By the way, any pictures of Ji Sub will be highly appreciated...by me. That last picture is adorable though I don't know if that's the term he'd appreciate. LOL Where do they get these guys from anyway??
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