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Does anyone know why Atsu-hime bare her feet when going to see Iesada's coffin?
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poor atsu-hime sama
she faced a double blow tonight. not only her adopted father died, but iesada died as well(she wasn't informed until 30 days). I really feel for her(shedding tears as well....even during shinsengumi when yamanami comitted hara kiri or seppoku). even the song was sad(i'm still hearing that haunting melodie) sniff!
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class blockquote brad6 wrote:

Treasure hunting...

SAKAI MASATO who plays the Shogun in 'Atsuhime' has played a role in the Kimura drama 'ENGINE' I was so delighted to find him and I am going to watch Engine again soon. He played the role of a teacher in the orphanage run by Kimura's father in the drama. He was in a fairly long role so it will be interesting to see him again in a modern part.

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i have lots of japanese idol magazines(smap being my fave), I look at only the pictures. I saw a pic of masato san in kimura's drama hero. the drama is very excellent. I saw the drama on you tube.

On the drama masato's character had doubts about kimura's character at first........but in the end he trust him.

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Atsu-hime #28 - The Two Wills

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I think last night's episode was perhaps the saddest one we have seen so far in this taiga drama. I felt terrible for poor Atsu... what pain she must have felt when receiving the news (back to back) that both her adoptive father Nariakira and her husband Shogun Iesada passed away. What bad timing... as soon as she finished reading Nariakira's final letter, she received the word of her husband's death. Double blow indeed.

I couldn't believe that Lady Honjuin forbade either the physician or Takiyama from telling Atsu that Shogun Iesada was ill. What an evil woman. I guess she had the "If I can't see him, nobody can" type reasoning. What a brutal tradition of keeping the death of the shogun secret from his entire family for thirty days in order to prepare for the funeral. It was good that Takiyama broke with the protocol and informed Atsu of her husband's passing (even though the 30 days hadn't been up yet). If she had waited until the day of the funeral, I think Atsu would have felt even worse.

The final scene with Atsu sobbing at Iesada's coffin was perhaps the saddest scene. Hzmonte, I also noticed that Atsu was barefoot when she entered that room. I wonder why she did that -- perhaps it was a tradition to remove one's shoes upon entering the chamber storing the coffin? Atsu and Iesada had such a loving and honest relationship with each other. I think Atsu felt worse because she was robbed of the chance to go see him one last time.

There was one thing that seemed to see a resolution in this episode -- the Tokugawa succession crisis. After Ii Naosuke was named as Chief Minister, it looks like he is something of a tyrant... the narrator mentioned that he dismissed Elder Hotta from his post and signed the American commerce treaty without notifying the Kyoto imperial court in person (he just sent an impersonal written notification).

And then the finale... Yo****omi was finally named as heir to the Tokugawa shogunate. I thought it interesting when the narrator mentioned that Naosuke proceeded to order both Yoshinobu and his father, the Old Lord of Mito (Nariaki) to retire. I guess Naosuke was just ensuring that he would be met with zero resistance.

Speaking of the father and son... what an interesting lscene that took place between Mito Nariaki and Yoshinobu. I remember that Yoshinobu had mentioned once to Nariakira that he disliked his father. Now, it seems the two have grown closer (even if its just a little bit).

I was relieved that the late Iesada was able to speak to Naosuke about Atsu before he passed away. Iesada seems to have made it clear that he wants Atsu to be Yo****omi's official guardian until he comes of age. Now that Yo****omi has become the official heir, I wonder if Naosuke will heed the late Iesada's request.

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Nariakira was indeed a very wise lord. Though he did cause Atsu (and Naogoro) many hardships, I think he truly loved Atsu as his daughter. The actor who portrayed him did a great job. The final letter Nariakira wrote to Atsu was both sad and beautifully written. I think Atsu was feeling apprehensive to open it, since she thought Nariakira would be upset that she wasn't successful in getting Yoshinobu to be named as the heir. But on the contrary, Nariakira told her to not worry about him and to follow her heart.

At least the question of Nariakira's heir has been decided peacefully during the scene with Nariakira on his deathbed. He decided that first his brother Tadayuki's teenage son, and then Nariakira's own son Tetsumaru (still an infant) would be the Shimazu clan lord. Since both were still underage, Nariakira's brother Tadayuki would rule as regent and guardian.

Nariakira was only 50 when he died... I wonder what he died of?

Naogoro and Nariakira had grown very close, it seems. Like Saigo, Naogoro has gotten himself very involved in political administration (helping Nariakira with the Western-style army he was planning before his death). It seems Naogoro was hit hard by the death as well. Ikushima too. I think she was already upset that Yo****omi had been named as heir, and she felt broken down when she found out Nariakira had passed away right afterwards.

Wow, so much went on in this episode. We're still in late July of 1858. Naosuke is Chief Minister and has confirmed that Yo****omi is the heir. Now, both Shogun Iesada and Nariakira have passed away (a few days apart). I wonder how poor Atsu will fare after her emotional breakdown at the end of the episode. After that double blow of receiving news of the deaths of her father and husband minutes apart, it seems to be extremely vexing and difficult for her.

Episode 29 airs next Sunday!
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The saddest figure of all was the very sensitive Iesada. After having found happiness in love and companionship after a lifetime of being profoundly "alone in the crowd," what a cruel journey into death. Longing for his Atsuhime... wondering why she didn't come to him....


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I re-watched Iesada's final scene from last night's episode. Its truly such a sad scene... watching Iesada as he holds the single go piece in his hand, asking himself why Atsu didn't come to visit him like she always did. I'm sure Atsu would have found a way to go see him if she had known at the time he was gravely ill. I still can't believe that Lady Honjuin was so selfish and cruel as to prevent her son from seeing the one person who could possibly make him feel better.

I noticed during the episode that the physician mentioned Iesada's chronic illness as being beriberi: class blockquote Beriberi (pronounced Berry-berry) is a nervous system ailment caused by thiamine (vitamin B1) deficiency. Thiamine is needed to help convert carbohydrates into glucose. Symptoms include severe lethargy and fatigue, together with complications affecting the cardiovascular, nervous, muscular, and gastrointestinal systems.This might have been why Iesada always used to mention that he was feeling tired and fatigued.
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I also found it strange to see Midaisama in bare feet. According to etiquette, kimono should never be worn without tabi, and bare feet is usually associated with prostitutes. Although, I've read somewhere that during the Edo Period that all formal occasions required bare feet, but maybe that was for samurai?

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Regarding the scene where Atsuhime sent Iesada the Go stone, maybe could have been a reference to a game concept called, Life & Death?
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Thanks for the links, Bubu! That's a good point about Atsu sending Iesada the white stone being a reference to Life and Death in the go game. I found this to be interesting in the Wikipedia article: class blockquote A group must have two eyes (meaning secured internal liberties) to live (meaning to survive through to the end of the game).Though Atsu didn't know (at that point, anyway) that Iesada was ill, she was told that he was very busy and couldn't see her. So perhaps Atsu was sending Iesada the stone to urge him on. Go seems to be a very special game for Atsu -- in the early episodes she used to play it all the time with Naogoro. Even after she was married, the game allowed her to cultivate and strengthen her relationship with Iesada.

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I agree with everyone..... how sad not to be able to stay with him during his last days and not being told of his passing 'til 30 days later. emoticon
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I don't know why, but I just remembered the next episode previews and travelogue segments that UTB used to air after the end of a taiga episode. I remember that during the early episodes of Atsu-hime, they would always air the next episode previews followed by these short travel segments of historic sights. For some reason, they stopped it. I hope UTB begins to air the travel segments again soon -- they were always informative and enjoyable to watch.
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