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sylia74
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J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime)
If I recall correctly the early scenes with Ikushima she was hanging out with Lord Konoe, Minister of the right and brother in law of Lord Nariakira. She was Lord Nariakira's sister's personal attendant. After Nariakira's sister passed away she stayed at Lord Konoe's mansion at his request but she always considered herself a servant to the Shimazu family.
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9/15/2008, 7:24 pm
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Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime)
According to Japanese Wikipedia, there is no mention of Ikushima ever being married.
Below is a rough translation. (xxx = not sure of correct translation) 
幾島（いくしま、文化7年6月18日（1810年7月11日）- 明治11年4月26日（1878年5月26日）
Ikushima: Born 1810-7-11 — Died 1878-5-26
江戸幕府13代将軍徳川家定の正室天璋院付きの御年寄。本姓は朝倉、名は糸。
Chief-maid of Atsuhime. Her real name is Asakura Ito.
父は薩摩藩御側用人の朝倉孫十郎景矩。
Her father is Asakura Sonjurou-Korexxx, who was a Satsuma samurai.
母は秋田藩士、阿比留軍吾の娘・民。
Her mother is Tami, who was the daughter of Akita samurai Abiru Gungo(?)
藤田と名乗り、島津斉宣の娘で近衛忠煕に嫁いだ郁姫付きの女中として、ともに京都の近衛邸で過ごした。
Ikushima used to be called Fujita. She used to live in Kyoto at Konoe-house as a maid of Ikuhime. Ikuhime was the daughter of Shimazu Hitoshi, and married Konoe Tadahiro. (She became Ikuhime's maid at the age of 13)
嘉永3年（1850年）に郁姫が亡くなると出家して得浄院と号し、近衛忠煕に仕えながら郁姫の菩提を弔った。
When Ikuhime died in 1850, she became a nun and called herself Tokujouin(?) and prayed for Ikuhime while serving Ikuhime's husband, Konoe Tadahiro.
その後、薩摩藩主島津斉彬の養女島津篤子を近衛忠煕の養女として徳川家定に嫁がせる事が決まり、幾島と改名して篤子付きとなった。
Later, she renamed herself as Ikushima and became Atsuhime's chief maid.
Ikushima's Tombstone
Just recently, they discovered Ikushima's toumbstone at Karaminato(?) Cemetery in Kagoshima prefecture in Kyushu.
According to the epitaph, she was born 1808-6-18 as a daughter of a Satsuma samurai, and died 1870-4-26 in Tokyo at the age of 63.
Original article (Japanese)
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9/16/2008, 3:52 am
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Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime)
class blockquote Hiroshi66 wrote:
Nchristi, I feel the same way -- it would be great if the taiga dramas could be shown in chronological order. It would be very interesting to see the dramas progress in order from the earlier historical periods to the modern era, especially since we could better see how much the politics and history in Japan changed over the centuries.
I'm going to miss seeing Iesada too! I know what you mean, they kept showing flashbacks of him throughout the last couple of episodes, but it only makes it harder!
Bubu, thanks for the info on Miyazaki's new movie! How exciting to see Atsu-hime in her first role in a comedy movie. She seems like one of those entertainers that can do great in any kind of role -- whether its comedy or drama. what movie is she playing?
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9/16/2008, 8:11 am
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Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime)
Atsu-hime - Episode #32
The Sakurada Gate Incident
 
Wow, last night's episode sure was action-packed -- lots of different events and happenings going on all over the place, in addition to new characters, alliances, and ideas. I like that this taiga goes over all the events in the plot thoroughly. This way, we get a chance to learn more about new characters rather than just seeing them for a split second of a scene and then moving on to the next scene.
It was sad to see Ikushima leave... and I think it was even more difficult for Tenshoin. I think that for Tenshoin, Ikushima was the last person to have known and lived with her in Satsuma. Everybody else surrounding her in the Ooku (Takiyama, Shigeno, etc.) only met her after she married Iesada. But I did like the scroll of Satsuma that Ikushima presented Tenshoin... what a nice farewell present. I noticed in one of the later scenes that she had hung it up in her room. It must remind her of Satsuma so much. Even though Shigeno also seems nice and helpful, I still am going to miss Ikushima!
I also really liked the character of Katsu Rintaro, who met with Shogun Iemochi and Tenshoin. He looked very excited to be going on the mission to America /on that new steam-powered ship that Japan had purchased from Holland. He seemed to be a very bright and kind individual, and even presented Tenshoin with that sewing machine. I think that both Tenshoin and Shogun Iemochi took a liking to him - he seemed very genuine and answered all their questions about the upcoming trip to America very patiently. Speaking of the sewing machine... I found it very interesting when the narrator remarked that Tenshoin was the first woman in Japan to ever use a Western-style sewing machine.
I was also surprised to see John Manjiro! I had forgotten about his character, since we hadn't seen him since the early episodes before Atsu had even been adopted by Nariakira. But when we saw the flashbacks to the early episodes, I remembered how he had gone to America, returned to Satsuma, and was telling Atsu and Naogoro all about the governmental structure and culture of the United States. Now, Manjiro mentioned that he is going to return to America with Katsu to act as an interpreter.
I found it so interesting that Manjiro told Tenshoin about how Naogoro used to be in love with her back in Satsuma. Tenshoin seemed to be taken aback at first, but then it looked like she was happily reminiscing about her early days in Satsuma. I really iked Tenshoin's comment to Shigeno: Memories are treasures.
Back in Satsuma...
It was good of Tadayuki and Naogoro to stop Okubo and the rest of the samurai from leaving the service of the Shimazu and going to Edo or Kyoto as masterless samurai. I think that because of the letter that Tadayuki wrote, Okubo and the rest of the Satsuma samurai took account of how Tadayuki forgave them and asked them to be his " loyal foundation and pillars". This way, Tadayuki and Naogoro were able to stop the samurai from leaving Satsuma but were also able to earn their support.
Towards the end of the episode, I found it interesting when Okubo mentioned that this new alliance of Satsuma samurai was going to be called the Seichugumi, or the Loyalist Group (since they were pledging loyalty to Shimazu Tadayuki). When they were deciding whose name to put first on the list of members that would be submitted to Tadayuki, I thought it was nice of Okubo to write Saigo's name on the first line (even though it looks like Saigo is still on the Amami Island). I'm glad that Okubo is finally taking charge in something. Naogoro seemed happy, too. I wonder how Tadayuki will react?
And finally... Ii Naosuke's assassination. I didn't see that coming... especially since he and Tenshoin had finally started to settle their differences. After the assassination, Tenshoin even mentioned to Shogun Iemochi that if he had been alive, they might have even been able to finally work together. Two things were certain though... one thing was that Naosuke made the best tea in all Edo! Another was that despite Naosuke's brutal and shrewd tactics, he truly loved and wanted to protect his country and the Tokugawa shogunate. Tenshoin seemed really taken aback and shocked at Naosuke's murder... especially when Takiyama told her that the person who took his head was a Satsuma masterless samurai.
We're now in March of 1860, and Ii Naosuke has just been assassinated. Poor Tenshoin... she must feel horrible since she was so close to finally working on cooperating with Naosuke for the good of the country. And he was finally understanding why the late Iesada loved her so. Great taiga... each episode just gets better and better!
Episode #33 airs next Saturday! (9/27)
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9/21/2008, 8:29 am
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Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime)
A follow-up to my previous post on Ikushima. A friend just emailed me this explanation on the different dates.
幾島（いくしま、文化7年6月18日（1810年7月11日) ~ 明治11年4月26日（1878年5月26日）
Ikushima: Born 1810-7-11, Died 1878-5-26.
About Ikushima's age
There are two different dates on Japanese Wikipedia. The first set, 文化7年6月18日 ~ 明治11年4月26日, are dates by old Japanese calendar (probably Lunar calendar or something like that). The dates within ( ) is the modern day calendar dates (Gregorian solar calendar).
However, the dates suggested by her tombstone are different dates. Since the tombstone is a very recent finding, I imagine the tombstone dates are more accurate than Wikipedia's dates.
Tombstone dates: Born 1808-6-18 ~ Died 1870-4-26
Age counting
In Japan in the old days, we used to count ages by the method called 数え年（数え歳), kazoe-doshi or simply kazoe. The day you are born, you are age 1. And on every New Year's Day (Jan.1st), everybody gets 1 year older. If you are born on 12/31, you are age 1 on that day, and on the next day, you become age 2 ! A two-day-old baby is two years old. Wow!
We stopped doing this in 1945 when we lost the war. Many things changed in that year, that's when we started applying western world habits.
According to Wikipedia, countries of eastern Asia such as Japan, China, Korea, and Vietnam used to apply this kazoe-method. But nowadays, only South Korea still uses this method.
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