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J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime)
I think Hirokawa was acting like that with Okatsu because she felt Okatsu's demeanor was shocking. I think Hirokawa thought she was going to get someone who was more passive or genteel. She seemed relieved that Ikushima is going to be the head lady in waiting from now on.
I would like to see more about Okatsu's training and what kind of things are expected of her now that she's in a higher social level. I was half expecting her to run out into that garden.
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4/6/2008, 5:45 pm
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Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime)
class blockquote nchristi wrote: class blockquote Hiroshi66 wrote:
What exactly does Nariakira and Abe (the man in Edo) have up their sleeves..?Yikes! I was wondering, too. Does Abe want her for himself? Or just to make an alliance between his own family (or another clan) with Nariakira, thus a more powerful tribal alliance of some sort? Was Nariakira sincere about liking and appreciating Okatsu? Or is he, also, just using her for his own political ends?
At least one thing is clear. The taiga producers are never too subtle about ominous things to come. Nothing like the sunlight disappearing, then darkness and thunder accompanying Lady Ikushima's smiling introduction.
Isn't the Abe actor the one who played the cosmetic salesman in Blue Sky and again in that Shopping drama?
look under my quote(up)
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class blockquote nchristi wrote:
Isn't the Abe actor the one who played the cosmetic salesman in Blue Sky and again in that Shopping drama?Yep, that's him. He's really a great actor, he's excellent in both very comedic roles (like in the Shopping drama and also the one about vet students that was on KXLA a while back) and also in darker roles like this one. He's been on the taiga Yo****sune as well. Its pretty interesting, because a lot of people who were in that 2005 taiga also have roles in this one. Zusho, Lady Ikushima, Abe - they were all in Yo****sune. Guess NHK wanted them back!
That's so true about the omens too! I thought the thunder would just be subtly in the background, but the camera went straight to a shot of the lightning behind Ikushima's bowing figure. Now we know what Nariakira meant when he told Ikushima and her husband in Kyoto that he "needed her".
But I also started wondering about Nariakira. Everybody made him out to be this great man.. and he even gave Katsu that convincing speech about her reminding him of his late mother and how he felt "relaxed near her". Was that just a bunch of bologna to further his political needs? I guess we'll see what he and Abe are plotting in the future.
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I really can't believe he is going to marry Atsu to that son of Ieyoshi. I thought he was so fond of her and loved her as his daughter. Even princesses were goods and chattels and used as pawns in politics. I feel so sorry for Atsu as she would be so unhappy with such an empty headed youth. He was not mentally complete I think. Maybe not quite manly also.
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Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime)
#9 - 篤姫誕生の城 - Princess Atsu is Born
 
Wow, what an episode last night! Looks like all of Nariakira's plans were exposed by the early death of the shogun. The country truly is in a real crisis - as Abe said early on in the episode, "this is the greatest crisis Japan has ever been in". And it sure was - not only are the American warships returning in one year for an affirmative answer, but the shogun has died, only to be succeeded by his mentally unfit son.
Speaking of mentally unfit, Iesachi (the heir to the shogunate who Atsu is now betrothed to) definitely had mental deficiencies. It was probably the result of so much inbreeding in Japan's aristocratic families. The Emperor Taisho, who was Japan's emperor from 1912 to 1926 (prior to Hirohito) also was ill for the same reason.
I'm glad the writers always bring up memories of Kikumoto, or refer back to the Imaizumi house for a glimpse at Katsu's prior life. Often times, writers just forget about characters who do not play a central role in the plot anymore, but I'm glad the writers for this drama bring back all the characters for at least a few minutes per episode.
Ikushima.. interesting personality. While I don't like what Atsu-hime has to go through, I can't blame Ikushima. She has a more graceful and kinder way of dealing with Atsu, rather than the haughty Hiraikawa (the former attendant). It seems like Ikushima also has a story to tell.
We'll see what happens in Ep 10. I wonder if Nariakira will tell Atsu of her impending marriage?
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When I first saw that the shogun had died, I just knew Atsu was slated to be the son's wife as a slick political maneuver by Nariakira and Abe to influence/control the shogunate. My first reaction was horror at our Atsu's fate.
But then my opinion changed almost completely. What better person than Atsu to both serve a fulfilling personal role to this son, and to help him rule/keep him on track? She will be influenced by Nariakira for a while, but Atsu is very smart and independent and just might see through a lot of baloney.
In the drama so far, the son is rather enigmatic. It was suggested in an earlier episode that he might not be as deranged as his behavior indicates, that maybe he's deliberately and cleverly acting a certain way to avoid responsibility of being the heir to the shogunate.
At any rate, he doesn't seem to be mean or vicious and might fall completely in love with Atsu, thoroughly enchanted by her and appreciative of her mind and knowledge. She's also weird enough (for her time) to be a great match for him, probably.
On the other hand, if he is absusive towards her, I will be mega-upset.
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I really enjoyed the scenes with Atsu interacting with Ikushima. I found it very informative the things that she was telling her.
I was really touched by that scene when Atsu questions what kind of relationship Ikushima had with Princess Iku. It seems like such a small scene (did anyone notice that she was playing that matching shell game that they discussed in detail in Asakusa Fukumaru Ryokan?) but it expressed so much about what kind of relationship Princess Iku and Ikushima had. It seems that she was really devoted to Princess Iku and was probably Iku's closest friend and confidante for all those years. I wonder if they grew up together. Ikushima had such a pained expression of loss for those few seconds and then regained her composure.
I'm not looking forward to those scenes with Atsu and her husband. He's one of my favorite actors though. He was wonderful as Keisuke Yamanami in Shinsengum! and he's very convincing in this role as the Shogun. class reveal  class spoiler At least Atsu didn't have to suffer as his wife for too long.
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class blockquote sylia74 wrote:
I really enjoyed the scenes with Atsu interacting with Ikushima. I found it very informative the things that she was telling her.
I was really touched by that scene when Atsu questions what kind of relationship Ikushima had with Princess Iku. It seems like such a small scene (did anyone notice that she was playing that matching shell game that they discussed in detail in Asakusa Fukumaru Ryokan?) but it expressed so much about what kind of relationship Princess Iku and Ikushima had. It seems that she was really devoted to Princess Iku and was probably Iku's closest friend and confidante for all those years. I wonder if they grew up together. Ikushima had such a pained expression of loss for those few seconds and then regained her composure.
I'm not looking forward to those scenes with Atsu and her husband. He's one of my favorite actors though. He was wonderful as Keisuke Yamanami in Shinsengum! and he's very convincing in this role as the Shogun. class reveal class spoiler At least Atsu didn't have to suffer as his wife for too long.I know! its funny seeing him playing shogun with a childlike personality
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