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CJKDramas.com  Japanese Drama   J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) Support board & forum SearchRSS CJKDramas.com   |   Runboard       註冊 / 登録 / Register (learn about it) | Sign in (lost password?) Page:  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14  15  16  17  18  19  20   21  22  23  24  25  26  27  28  29  30  31  32  33  34  35  36  37  38  39  40   41  42  43  44  45  46  47  48  49  50  51  52  53  54  55  nchristi Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 03-2004 Location: Hotel California Posts: 8809 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) class blockquote sylia74 wrote: I'm not looking forward to those scenes with Atsu and her husband. He's one of my favorite actors though. He was wonderful as Keisuke Yamanami in Shinsengum! and he's very convincing in this role as the Shogun. Oh, wow.... Thanks for mentioning Sakai Masato, sylia74! I thought he looked a little familiar, but I never looked at him closely enough, I guess. Yamanami was my very favorite character in Shinsengumi. (I even named my hummingbird after him! ) I wish he had a major role in this drama. I truly love this actor's manner and abilities. 4/15/2008, 2:51 pm    Hiroshi66 Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 02-2004 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 8795 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) class blockquote nchristi wrote: Yamanami was my very favorite character in Shinsengumi. (I even named my hummingbird after him! )Oh, I remember Yamanami! Have you seen him lately? Its interesting though that this taiga is using many actors and actresses who have already starred in recent taiga dramas (like Shinsengumi and Yo****sune). I guess its because they want people who have prior experience with dramas like this, in addition to featuring new talent (like Aoi Miyazaki, who stars as our heroine). 4/15/2008, 4:23 pm    Hiroshi66 Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 02-2004 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 8795 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) #10 - Becoming the Shogun's Wife Wow, another excellent episode. This taiga just keeps on getting better and better, as of now I have no real complaints (except for UTB's butchering of the opening credits and travelogues). It looks like the Tokugawa regime faces its final dilemma - whether to go to war against the foreign nations, or to completely surrender to their demands. Nariakira seems to want to take the moderate route and do a little of both (play off the foreigners with promises of trade and commerce while building up a strong navy to eventually combat the foreigners) and is going to use Atsu to get what he wants. I'm glad they made Atsu's attempted escape as comedic as possible. I just knew that when she mentioned she missed her mother, she would try to escape. How ironic that she was caught by Ikushima herself! (how odd for Ikushima to be walking exactly by Atsu's quarters at the very time she attempted to escape..) But that was another sad scene when Atsu mentioned that she wanted to see her mother. At the very moment she said that to Ikushima, the scene segued over to Atsu's mom, doing flower arranging.She proceeded to accidentally prick herself in the finger - I guess that as a mother, you'll feel pain (even unconsciously) when your child is feeling pain. Nariakira has the power of persuasion. First he convinced Atsu to be adopted into his family, and now he persuaded her to marry into the Tokugawa head family. Speaking of the shogun Iesachi, he truly is an abnormal person.. it would be interesting to see how Atsu reacts to this (since she seemed to be looking forward to it as of the end of the episode). Ep #11 airs next week! 4/19/2008, 9:19 pm    nchristi Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 03-2004 Location: Hotel California Posts: 8809 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) I agree that this was yet another excellent episode. The time flies by. Well, I suppose all that a young woman can hope for in an arranged marriage to a stranger is that it won't be too unpleasant. Atsu will probably find her greatest happiness in the service and influence she will have on her nation's history and in any children she might have. She's a survivor and has a willing spirit to make anything work. I'm sure she'll turn the sourest lemons into lemonade, if such are her circumstances. Question: Once a woman is married to shogun (or any man), is she permitted to marry someone else if/when he dies? Or do they all become nuns until their own deaths? 4/21/2008, 5:45 pm    sylia74 Member Global user Registered: 08-2006 Location: Hollywood Posts: 222 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) I think that mostly the women would become nuns. I haven't seen many where the woman gets to remarry, especially the higher ranking women. I had been wondering what the name "Atsu" meant so I looked it up. I was surprised that it meant "kind" or "cordial". I thought some people might be interested to know what the actual Atsu hime looked like. Here's a link with her picture:http://www.tokyoartbeat.com/event/2007/801F.en 4/21/2008, 7:28 pm    brad6 Member Global user Registered: 07-2004 Posts: 2266 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) That was interesting to see the picture of the real Atsu. She did not look as sweet as our actress, but I can quite see that she would be a forceful woman and very capable of impressing the men in charge. I had no luck trying to find pages about the real Atsu ,so this was most appreciated. Peg 4/21/2008, 8:41 pm    Hiroshi66 Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 02-2004 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 8795 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) Nchristi, I definitely agree about Atsu finding solace in the fact that her marriage will likely change the course of Japan's modern history. I realized that she only changed her mind about the marriage to the shogun once Nariakira mentioned that what she's doing is going to have a profound effect on the future of Japan. At the end of the episode, she asked Hirakawa to bring her a history of the Tokugawa family. She had this look of determination on her face. She looked ready to analyze the family she's marrying into and start preparing herself for what's to follow. That's true, most of the higher-ranking women would be forced to become nuns once their husbands died (no matter how young). They weren't allowed to re-marry and wouldn't even be allowed to return home to their families. They would have to remain with the families of their husbands until death. Very unfortunate. That practice started dying out, however, with the influx of Western ideas in the late 19th century (even though rich families still kept the custom of shunning remarriage of women late into the 1940s). Thanks for the picture of Atsu-hime, sylia74! That's pretty fascinating - I hope this drama progresses with Atsu's life into her old age as depicted in the image. 4/21/2008, 8:43 pm    sylia74 Member Global user Registered: 08-2006 Location: Hollywood Posts: 222 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) Hey Peg! class reveal class spoiler Here are a few pages that I found about Atsu-hime that you might be interested in http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Atsu-hime and http://www.lesleydowner.com/journalism/secrets-of-the-shoguns-harem/ The second webpage paints a rather unflattering portrait of Atsu hime as the young widow Tensho'in Defintely Defintely do not look at these pages if you don't want to know what happens. I think it is so interesting how different real people some times look compared to their tv or movie counterparts. I have to say what I really appreciate about this show so far is showing her princess training. When you watch other dramas from this period you just kind of assume everyone knows how to act or what to do. 4/22/2008, 7:15 pm    Hiroshi66 Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 02-2004 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 8795 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) class blockquote sylia74 wrote: I have to say what I really appreciate about this show so far is showing her princess training. When you watch other dramas from this period you just kind of assume everyone knows how to act or what to do.Yeah, I feel the same way! Being very interested in Japanese language, what interested me the most were the scenes in Ep. 9 (or was it 10?) where Ikushima was commenting on Atsu's usage of the Satsuma dialect in her tone and accent. I noticed that her accent changed into the standard Edo/Kyoto dialect that was considered "higher-class" during that period - from the very casual Satsuma dialect spoken in southern Japan to the extra-polite dialect spoken in the imperial capital during that time. It was just interesting to see Ikushima make a note of it in her princess training. 4/23/2008, 7:01 am    nchristi Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 03-2004 Location: Hotel California Posts: 8809 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) One of the most interesting little factlets from last week was how the princess must speak—loudly and slowly. I had always wondered why the upper crust types spoke in such a laboriously slow manner. It never occurred to me that all listeners must be able to hear and comprehend what is said the one and only first time around. It is not permitted to ask them to repeat anything. Since the underlings couldn't ask, it was incumbent upon the overlings to pronounce clearly and with sufficient volume for all to hear. Also eating with the chopsticks in such a delicate, precise manner as to not allow them to touch the water when Atsu was practicing removing beans from the bowl of water. I suppose the bottom line is that the nobility must be elevated above the mere mortal world of commoners—especially the women who must be the epitome of grace and grandeur. I, too, am loving all the details of daily life and manners. Here, form is everything, while substance is a distant second (a la the MIL/DIL battle in the "battling wives" J-drama we just concluded). 4/23/2008, 7:30 am    Add a reply Page:  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14  15  16  17  18  19  20   21  22  23  24  25  26  27  28  29  30  31  32  33  34  35  36  37  38  39  40   41  42  43  44  45  46  47  48  49  50  51  52  53  54  55  Link to us   -  Blogs   -  Hall of Honour   -  Chat You are not logged in (login)      11/29/2009, 12:31 am

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