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CJKDramas.com  Japanese Drama   J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) Support board & forum SearchRSS CJKDramas.com   |   Runboard       註冊 / 登録 / Register (learn about it) | Sign in (lost password?) Page:  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14  15  16  17  18  19  20   21  22  23  24  25  26  27  28  29  30  31  32  33  34  35  36  37  38  39  40   41  42  43  44  45  46  47  48  49  50  51  52  53  54  55  Hiroshi66 Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 02-2004 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 8796 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) class blockquote sylia74 wrote: Someone mentioned in an earlier reply about cutting out the opening credit. I was shocked the first time I saw them do that but I have to say if it means that they're cutting out less of the actual show then I'm all for it.Yeah, it seems they've been cutting out the opening credits for the last three or four episodes. They usually air two or three seconds of it (up until the name of the episode) and then cut it. But that's right, the number of edits seems to be decreasing in the episode, so I'd rather see more of the show rather than the opening credits (which is up on YouTube, so we can always look for it there!) 4/29/2008, 7:15 pm    sylia74 Member Global user Registered: 08-2006 Location: Hollywood Posts: 222 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) I thought some people might like to see a picture of the real Nagoro. Here is a link to a picture: http://monkey11.fileave.com/0048_l[1].jpg. It is a picture only. If some people would like some actual information about him I can give them that link. I have to say I was shocked by how handsome he was. 4/30/2008, 5:33 pm    Hiroshi66 Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 02-2004 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 8796 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) Thanks for the picture, sylia74! I think another thing I love about this taiga drama is that the time period is late enough in Japanese history so that when photography was introduced from the West, these people could be photographed. In the other taigas, we really only have paintings and sketches to go back on, but here we're actually able to see what the characters really looked like. Its great. 5/1/2008, 5:46 am    Hiroshi66 Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 02-2004 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 8796 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) #12 - Farewell to Sakurajima Wow... this drama never ceases to amaze me. Episode 12 just finished airing, and I must say that this episode was the most powerful thing I have watched in a very long time. Everything from Atsu's farewell to her parents to the final farewell with her beloved Satsuma... this was just a very emotional episode. Excellent, excellent series. I'm just enchanted with this drama. Poor Atsu... before she gets married, she still has to be adopted by yet another high ranking family in Kyoto (this time the Konoe family, a descendent of the old Fujiwara clan of old). How horrible that must be.. to keep switching families. At least she had met Nariakira when she was adopted by him. This time, she's going to a completely different city and getting adopted into a completely foreign family to her. I'm glad that Nariakira allowed her to have that tearful reunion with her old family. And Ikushima wasn't there to ruin anything either! It must be heartbreaking both for Atsu and her parents. I'm glad that they were able to laugh together once more before her departure. And that she was able to see Naogoro and her old friends again. I'm sure Naogoro will meet Atsu again in Edo - that look of determination on his face really makes me think he will somehow find a way to be involved in her life down the line. That last part was one of the saddest.. hearing that Atsu will never step forth on Satsuma soil again. I wonder what will happen.. gee, this is such a great show. Episode 13 airs next week. Wow.. I'm glad I taped this episode! 5/3/2008, 9:05 pm    brad6 Member Global user Registered: 07-2004 Posts: 2266 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) I agree with you Hiroshi..this drama gets better and better. Atsu is indeed a changed young woman now and the thing that impresses me is that she herself realises she has changed. I cannot decided how old she is now but I am guessing she must be twenty.. Her father loves her so much and yet he is very proud of her. Such pain for them to be truly parted for ever it seems. I loved it when atsu said to her stern mentor 'I dislike you'. Do we know if any of what we are seeing through the drama is actually as the the true life happenings?? the reason I ask is that in Korean history about royal dynasties there is a daily record written by the court scribes, as well as paintings done by the court painters. Therefore quite often actual conversations can be read in the archives. In the Japanese history dramas I have not seen any people in the court meetings who are writing anything down as the speeches are being made. Peg 5/3/2008, 11:04 pm    Hiroshi66 Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 02-2004 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 8796 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) I loved that scene too, Peg. When Atsu said "I dislike you", it really made it seem like she was a changed person and that she had matured and was very sure about her feelings and emotions. It just is so sad how she knows inside herself that she will never see her parents again, nor her native Satsuma. Now she has to go meet her new "parents" in Kyoto, and then go to Edo for the marriage preparations (it seems she will meet with Nariakira again there as well - probably for the wedding). I've always wondered that about how accurate the historical dramas are. I know this drama Atsu-hime is based on a novel by Miyao Tomiko (who also wrote a novel about Yo****sune, which was the basis for the 2004 taiga by the same name). I'm not sure where Tomiko got the information for the story though. I think that Tomiko based her novel on writings about Atsu's life that were available. That's interesting about the Korean scribes writing down whole conversations that happened in the royal court. That's a great historical record to have. Its a shame Japan didn't do that - I think they may have had something similar in the shogun's court or the imperial palace though. Sometimes what's preserved is the poetry written by the emperors and sometimes the shoguns. Last edited by Hiroshi66, 5/4/2008, 7:51 am 5/4/2008, 7:50 am    Steph92586 Member Global user Registered: 03-2008 Posts: 117 Quote J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) Did anyone else think that her real Father died last night, after seeing his daughter leave? 5/4/2008, 11:24 am    Hiroshi66 Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 02-2004 Location: Northridge, California Posts: 8796 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) class blockquote Steph92586 wrote: Did anyone else think that her real Father died last night, after seeing his daughter leave?I was thinking about the possibility of that both times the father fainted. I don't think he died, but was probably so overcome with grief that he fainted. I hope we see what happens to the father in next week's episode. I hope he's okay. 5/4/2008, 3:47 pm    sylia74 Member Global user Registered: 08-2006 Location: Hollywood Posts: 222 Quote J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) That was such a great episode. I cried a lot. Poor Atsu-Hime! I get the feeling that when she gets to Edo the shogun's Ooku is going to be a lot harsher and cut throat than anything she's experienced in Lord Nariakira's mansion. Ikushima will probably be one of the few allies she has in there. Does any one know anything about the life of the women who worked in the Ooku? I have been wondering about that lately. Did any of them get to have a life outside their work? Did any of them get to have their own family? I'd imagine I'd be pretty cranky too if my work was my entire life if that was the case. 5/4/2008, 5:15 pm    nchristi Moderator Global user (premium) Registered: 03-2004 Location: Hotel California Posts: 8809 Quote Re: J-Drama: 篤姫 (Atsu-hime) That was an episode that required I have my kleenex box handy. Thank goodness this seems to be a pivotal episode in which her youth and past are being left behind and she will be moving on into a new life/world. After the farewell with her father, mother, and Naogoro—then the news that she's being adopted yet again into a more prominent family—it seemed Atsu is fully prepared for it. She's hardened up considerably and my take on her is that she is now putting her full attention on her "role in life" to serve her country through marriage to the Shogun. Things will happen along the way, but she seems burned too many times now to get into an emotional trap of desiring "family" stability (a father, etc.) again. Those days are fleeting and easily changed—just as she now is moving on to yet another "father," another "family." I guess she's quickly learning that "form," not "substance" is the key toward achieving any substance in her life. One of the most profound scenes was the dialogue she had about the stones in "go" and how she loves each one. "A samurai can do what he wants in life, but a woman has only one path." She loved and envied the "freedom" the game stones had, a modicum of freedom that a woman, a human being, could not have in her era and circumstance (and even today in many places). Very sad. It is not surprising that the women in the ooku plotted and lobbied so much. (Ahh, financial freedom, the great equalizer. ) I admire the resiliency and determination to eke out some happiness by so many women in that confining circumstance. Then there was Naogoro. I surely do like that actor. Was it Yo****sune where one of the wives had long loved her mentor and they would occasionally meet, though not romantically? Can't remember which Taiga it was. I wonder if Naogoro and Atsu will be like that. He will always love her alone, it seems. One of these days, will she realize that what she feels for him is love, as well? 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