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I want to eat home-made healthy bread - how?
So, I want to eat healthy bread in Japan without having to travel large distances to find non-shokupan type bread. Is the best route to buy a bread making machine and ingredients or is it cheaper to buy from somewhere online perhaps? What would I need to make brown/healthy bread? Any advice most welcome. 
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2/3/2008, 6:47 pm
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Re: I want to eat home-made healthy bread - how?
Hey crayon,
You can actually make decent bread in a rice cooker - something every Japanese household has. Moreover, ingredients are available at any supermarket. Cake, Italian bread, Naan, can all be done very easily, but the sourcing of brown bread ingredients might be harder.
Googling
pan suihanki (bread / rice cooker)
or
panzukuri (bread cooking)
will give you an idea of what you can expect.
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Re: I want to eat home-made healthy bread - how?
Thanks for the reply Kirinclassic-sorry for not getting back any sooner as I've been settling into new life here in the burbs of Nagoya.....hmmm, the only reason I'd want to make my own is for "brown" i.e.healthier, bread. Mind, if I do make it, thenat least there'll be more than six slices to a loaf!
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Re: I want to eat home-made healthy bread - how?
Hi Crayon,
I'm really into home-baking myself though I don't have the dedication to make it any more than a weekend treat.
Kind of at the other end of ideas from Kirin's rice cooker in terms of simplicity (I had no idea Kirin !) but....
I'm looking to make a brick oven, mainly for pizza but also for bread too.
If you're interested in making your bread making an 'event' it might be fun for you.
I recommend this book for a general look at building and using a brick oven from a professional chef with an inspiring agenda:
Interview with Russell Jeavons
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3/18/2008, 10:38 pm
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Re: I want to eat home-made healthy bread - how?
It might be hard to build a brick oven in or around our rented apartment! The thought was there though - thanks for the link - I'll look out for the book. When we eventually buy our own place (or is that "if"?) - it will come in handy. Mind you, the Mrs tells me I'm rubbish at DIY. 
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3/28/2008, 12:21 am
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Re: I want to eat home-made healthy bread - how?
Hi crayon,
I love sourdough bread, and after some prompting from the better half, finally started baking my own. I began my own wild yeast starter at the end of last year, which took about a month to mature to a usable state. My first attempt was a flop, nice door stop, but not edible. So I found this web site (http://www.sourdoughhome.com ), and following the instructions there (for Black Canyon Sourdough Bread), produced my first proper loaf. Since then I've made a loaf most weekends and have a really robust starter that's now easy to manage. I have to say that sourdough starters are a lot of work initially. It became known as my 'baby' as you have to feed it regularly, and take good care of it, and it is quite a bit of effort for the first couple of months. You need patience, that's for sure, but the results are really worth it. In fact my wife refuses to buy bread at the markets now, she says mine is much better (and she's very fussy about food), so I take that as a good sign I'm doing ok. And one good thing about sourdough loaves is they keep really well. Even in humid weather the bread stays fresh for a whole week, and it freezes really well too. If you are interested I can take you though the process, including some tips I've learnt along the way. Its not difficult - if I can do it anyone can. ;-)
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Re: I want to eat home-made healthy bread - how?
Thanks for a great link datagecko.
Couldn't stop reading it.
I was just wondering how in old times people produced yeasts. It is an essential commodity in the smallholding.
Also you think for beer production there are hundreds of different yeasts that are the core of the flavour of specific beers and for centuries they were produced regularly. How was it done ?
Nice looking bread there, hard to get a loaf like that for love nor money.
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Re: I want to eat home-made healthy bread - how?
Boy, if that thing grows any more you'll have to strengthen the table legs! Thank you very much for the link - bookmarked and will get a reading in Golden week.
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Re: I want to eat home-made healthy bread - how?
Just an update on this. After several months of looking after my sour dough starter I had to stop due to an extended trip away. But when the starter was good and healthy I put away a batch in the freezer. Now I've read starter will last three months in the freezer, so I didn't have much hope when I pulled it out last weekend, almost 12 months later. But I thought I'd try anyway, and much to my surprise within the week its back to full form!! This is amazing, and I'm really happy as this was such a good starter. We will see how it goes.
So, moral of the story, don't hesitate to put your starter in the freezer if you have to go away!
Oh, and a good tip I read that seems to have helped. When reviving your lovely organic wholemeal (of course!) starter, don't use wholemeal flour, use refined white plain flour. I know, sounds crazy, but the white flour does not have much in the way of its own native bacteria, so it won't compete with your starter that's coming back from the dead. Swap back to wholemeal after its breathing again. In my case that's only taken a week. Still amazed this has worked.
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Re: I want to eat home-made healthy bread - how?
That link is just what I've been looking for. I may just give this sourdough thing a try. I mean, I've got time and a rice cooker so why not?
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