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stratobastard
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Stratobastard: "so what exactly does the 2nd circuit in the RBTC do then?"

It does what it is supposed to do!



which is?

well you must know if you told me its doing what its supposed to do.

how about i tell you then?
its doing exactly what the 2nd circuit in the mtc is doing, y'know, the one that dawksfan slags right off LOL

IT ONLY REPLACES THE CAPACITOR WITH ANOTHER CAPACITOR!

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so what exactly does the 2nd circuit in the RBTC do then?

:)
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And Rezi, RBTC= Robert "the Bruce" Tone Circuit emoticon



LOL!
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1. However, till you guys stop hiding behind your screen names and produce some verifiable evidence of your actual identities then what's to discuss with you, like I wrote, you are just more talking heads, because you choose to remain annonomous. You can sit there posting all the defamatory sh1te you like about me or my products, but till you have real identities, why would I care, it's meaningless. The RBTC continues to sell well despite the best efforts of the dawk-fan-boys to spoil it, with their ludricious claims that it doesn't work etc etc.

2. You have even heard from independent board members Stratman70 and KIllerBanannas that the RBTC does what it claims to do, so actually what is there to discuss anyway?




1. There's no obligation to tell your real name to anyone here.

It's only in the benefit of consumers that products can be discussed openly, but anonymously.

However, I've never said anything about the quality of the products you're selling. I've never tried one out, so I couldn't say if they work or not. As for RBTC being a copy of MTC, I merely said some people think it is a copy. I didn't say that. But you have to admit that's a natural conclusion. You buy MTC, become Dawk's Fan at his forum. Then suddenly you don't like it or him, and start selling a Ritchie Blackmore Tone Control, which according to you does what MTC only promised to do. You also start a questioning campaign against Dawk working for Blackmore.

You name your product after Ritchie Blackmore, and sell it as if he had something to do with the gadget. You even say your stuff is more authentic than Fender's RB Strats, which I suppose were personally okay'ed by RB. That's quite a claim. At least he has most likely tried out the prototypes. Can you say the same thing about "Ritchie Blackmore Tone Circuit"?

You have to admit the whole process from you buying the MTC to your advertizing campign which is built around discrediting Dawk and suggesting Blackmore had even the most minimal connection to RBTC is rather transparent, don't you think?

I give you a free tip: at your website, there are links to sound samples to both RBTC and some kind of a booster. They all lead to the same YouTube advert, which is based around attempting to discredit Dawk. See? The same soundclip. Which leads to a question, does on have to buy all the gadgets to get the sound demostrated in the video, or just one, which would mean 2 out of 3 gadgets basically do nothing, because you can get that sound with RBTC only. Sounds like "stardust" to me!

Which leads back to the most burning question: What has the RBTC to do with Ritchie Blackmore?

How's that for "believing everything you read in the internet", of which you always accuse of people who don't buy your arguments? emoticon

EDIT: The point about discussing the RBTC here is to place the claims you make on your products to as critical inspection as you want to place Dawk's. It's only fair, right?

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This is turning into quite an epic.
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This is turning into quite an epic.



Absolutely emoticon

It's a dirty job, but someone's got to keep this forum alive while we're waiting for a new Purple record...

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http://www.youtube.com/user/IHIKML

Wonder who this is, really? A Somalian who loves ****ie Betts and Blackmore?

I don't know, I'm away at my son's wedding for a weekend, and come back to some juvenile ****e from a forum member on my bluetone channel. Can't think why!

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Still promoting your "tube amp wannabe"???

You know Dart, it still sounds like a solid state amp no matter how much you preach.

Btw, can't Somalians like both Betts and Blackmore???

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Ok, let's deal with Stratobastard first, or perhaps it might be more apt to rename this one as StupidB'stard. Are you really that dumb ?

Ok Right clever clogs StratoB'stard, please show me where exactly I have claimed that I have TWO CIRCUITS in an RBTC ? I've looked over all my material and I can't really find it, so please kindly elaborate and tell me where this is. Once you are unable to do that, and you will be unable to do that, perhaps then you could, to use you terminology, " shut-the f*ck-up about it", coz it just makes you appear even dimmer than ever. Somehow I think you are confusing the "two circuits" bit with the claims made for the MTC, which Dawk definatley claims has TWO circuits. I have never claimed the RBTC had TWO CIRCUITS, that is another stupid idea you have invented for yourself, like all the other sh1te about how the RBTC is copied, stolen or whatever other defamatory crap you care to comeup with. So over to you now on that one StupidStratoBastard. BTW till you care to produce a real identity you are just another empty talking head. Case you don't understand what that means, it means you lack credability. Your picture doesn't appear in your posting, and whatever you took a picture of it doesn't look much like an RBTC, so what is it supposed to be? If it is then I guess you must have had great fun, digging it out of it's resin, just like a naughty kiddy breaking his new toy. I think you may have invalidated the warranty!

Rezi: Like I wrote before I'm very happy to discuss the RBTC in any level of detail you want to go into ONCE you and the other fan-boys who want to participate, put-up with who they actually are in real life. That way everyone is dealing on the same basis, rather than as it stands just now where you and any of the other annonomous posters are able to say absolutely anything and then hide behind their annonimity again. I'm not interested in attempting a serious discussion with a group of empty talking heads for what I would have though might be fairly obvious reasons. Your argument about open discussions reagrding products by consumers is fine I understand that, and you have the manufacturer here willing and ready to discuss the product, however that does not mean I'm here willing and ready to be defamed by a bunch of annonomous talking heads who are simply making ridiculous claims about my products they cannot support in any way. By the way if you want to subject the RBTC to your "critical appraisal" you should note that there are NO claims anywhere that the RBTC was made for, or used by Blackmore, nor are there any claims that I was ever his tech, or his best buddy either. It is those type of claims that have prompted the discussion about Dawk and the questions about what he did or didn't do for Blackmore.

Now, because Blackmore himself has told you very clearly via video clips that HE did his own scallop work( which was a large part of the work Dawk claims he did!)you have now decided to change the debate from "did Dawk do the work he claimed for Blackmore" into a debate about whether the RBTC has any validity related to Blackmore. Best that you realise, that the RBTC has already made it's mark in terms of buyers seeking to get a "blackmoresque" sound but much much more importantly also with many more players who are not even faintly interested in the "Blackmore" sound at all. In other words, the Blackmore part of the RBTC market is very small compared to other applications for it. Also the RBTC is demonstrated in soundclips, of course by me, but also by variou sindependent clips, including some produced here by Stratman70. I recall he posted a clip and said guess if it has an RBTC used in it, which it did and how many guessed it and how many said they liked the sound. Ask youself why the manufacturer of the MTC has produced NO clips at all for their product themselves!

Ok Rezi, so WHEN you and the other guys are prepared to put up your identities and when you , as a forum moderator, setup a specific topic to discuss the RBTC then we can get to it and atually discuss something properly. I'm sure you will understand why it has to be that way.

Till then, the way it stands is YOU have heard the WORDS of Blackmore himself telling you HE did his own scallop work and why would he lie? I beleived him, so why can't you ? ( that's how you put it, about the magazing articles you produced isn't it ?) At the same time, during this same video review of his guitar collection, while Blackmore himself was telling you HE did his OWN scallop work, he didn't make ANY mention of his tech Mr Dawk or the MTC or anything else related to his guitars that suggested anyone other then Balckmore himself worked on them. He even talked about these "new sensor pickups" on the model he helped Fender design.

Time will tell.
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1. Rezi: Like I wrote before I'm very happy to discuss the RBTC in any level of detail you want to go into ONCE you and the other fan-boys who want to participate, put-up with who they actually are in real life. That way everyone is dealing on the same basis, rather than as it stands just now where you and any of the other annonomous posters are able to say absolutely anything and then hide behind their annonimity again. I'm not interested in attempting a serious discussion with a group of empty talking heads for what I would have though might be fairly obvious reasons. Your argument about open discussions reagrding products by consumers is fine I understand that, and you have the manufacturer here willing and ready to discuss the product, however that does not mean I'm here willing and ready to be defamed by a bunch of annonomous talking heads who are simply making ridiculous claims about my products they cannot support in any way. By the way if you want to subject the RBTC to your "critical appraisal" you should note that there are NO claims anywhere that the RBTC was made for, or used by Blackmore, nor are there any claims that I was ever his tech, or his best buddy either. It is those type of claims that have prompted the discussion about Dawk and the questions about what he did or didn't do for Blackmore.

2. Now, because Blackmore himself has told you very clearly via video clips that HE did his own scallop work( which was a large part of the work Dawk claims he did!)you have now decided to change the debate from "did Dawk do the work he claimed for Blackmore" into a debate about whether the RBTC has any validity related to Blackmore. Best that you realise, that the RBTC has already made it's mark in terms of buyers seeking to get a "blackmoresque" sound but much much more importantly also with many more players who are not even faintly interested in the "Blackmore" sound at all. In other words, the Blackmore part of the RBTC market is very small compared to other applications for it. Also the RBTC is demonstrated in soundclips, of course by me, but also by variou sindependent clips, including some produced here by Stratman70. I recall he posted a clip and said guess if it has an RBTC used in it, which it did and how many guessed it and how many said they liked the sound. Ask youself why the manufacturer of the MTC has produced NO clips at all for their product themselves!

Ok Rezi, so WHEN you and the other guys are prepared to put up your identities and when you , as a forum moderator, setup a specific topic to discuss the RBTC then we can get to it and atually discuss something properly.

3. I'm sure you will understand why it has to be that way.

Till then, the way it stands is YOU have heard the WORDS of Blackmore himself telling you HE did his own scallop work and why would he lie? I beleived him, so why can't you ? ( that's how you put it, about the magazing articles you produced isn't it ?) At the same time, during this same video review of his guitar collection, while Blackmore himself was telling you HE did his OWN scallop work,

4. he didn't make ANY mention of his tech Mr Dawk or the MTC or anything else related to his guitars that suggested anyone other then Balckmore himself worked on them. He even talked about these "new sensor pickups" on the model he helped Fender design.

Time will tell.



1. I'm getting enough spam as it is. I'm a fan of Blackmore's, not Dawk's nor certainly yours now, with all the name calling etc. emoticon

I've made it perfectly clear I'm not evaluating your product or Dawk's. Haven't used any of them, and am not interested.

Since you use our forum as a base for adverting your product and blaming your rival for lying, it is only fair the same criticism is directed at your product. I'm sure you agree?

2. I believe RB. That doesn't mean Dawk or someone else could have done scalloping for him at some point. The MTC thing was confirmed elsewhere, so let's not do the same routine in which you keep churning the same crap all over again.

The RBTC point is to scale just how much hot air there is to your claims to get a "blackmoresque" sound. How can that be more more "blackmoresque" than the device RB has confirmed to use? Your entire YouTube campaign was based on that claim the last time I checked (I don't do it too often, don't worry).

I don't need Dawk's soundclips as I'm not interested in buying the MTC (or RBTC for that matter).

If your customers are happy, great!

3. Absolutely incomprehesable. If you can't discuss the product you're selling in public there must be something fishy about it.

4. So what? He confirmed that elsewhere.

You keep reading the same interviews and Dawk's post to his forum all over again in search of a conspirary theory. I do hope your business is otherwise run on a more sane course and you don't see "them" lurking around every corner.
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Rezi, I don't think mijfenders need this forum to promote his products. He's got his own website to take care of any promoting.

Hopefully you know, just like the rest of us, that there isn't a lot of people visiting these pages anymore. I think mijfenders still post here, like he's done for many years, because of his interest for all things Purple and Blackmore. If you go back in time, long before the RBTC was invented, you'll see that, in his posts, he shows a genuine interest for Blackmore' sound and gear.

Now then, there's been a long debate about Dawk and what he's done/ not done for Blackmore. I think we can conclude that Dawk worked on some level for Purple, he did a couple of things for Blackmore that can be verified (magazine interviews) etc. Still, there are a lot of loose ends concerning Dawk. There are a lot of claims coming from both him and his longtime pal Jerry that can't be verified, like "I've scalloped all of Blackmore' guitars" when in fact Blackmore tells us that he do all his scallops himself, and we also have those Lace Sensor pu's Dawk is selling when in fact Blackmore says he was part of "inventing" them together with Lace.

My take on this is that Blackmore can't always be trusted in interviews (I don't believe he's done all the scalloping himelf, but he may have- I don't know, I wasn't there), and I don't believe for a second that Dawk has done all he claim to have done for Blackmore. I believe he did a few things, and when people started to ask him about his work for Blackmore it all grew out of proportion and beyound the point of no return.

For me, at lest one good thing has come out of it. We've got RBTC and (finally) MTC soundclips that proves they both work, and they work differently. There's probably room for both of them, only.....not in my guitar emoticon

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