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Teabagger fringe lunatics have taken over the Republican party and Dems in NY-23....
.....and soon enough across the country are reaping the benefits of conservative lunacy!!!!
The strangest thing about today's election is that Republicans have come to see NY-23 as ground zero in their bid for renewed relevance. Leave aside the fact that the GOP candidate has withdrawn from the race and endorsed the Democrat, these teabagging Republicans have convinced themselves that electing a conservative like Glenn Beck, errrrrrr I mean Doug Hoffman in NY-23 will prove that they have come back from the dead. Eventhough that district hasn't gone Dem in over 35 years or so.
Now, in 2009, the Democratic Party -- for the first time in decades, if not ever -- actually has a shot at winning the seat.
Even if Hoffman manages to win this election, how can the GOP possibly claim tomorrow's results as some sort of big win? Sure, teabaggers will be excited that they rolled Scozzafava with a right-wing loon, but they'll also have turned NY-23 into much more competitive seat than if Scozzafava had won. Suddenly, the NRCC will be forced to defend a seat they had expected to take for granted.
If that sort of scenario is what qualifies for a victory these days in GOP circles, then this won't be a story of a party that has finally found its footing: it'll be the story of a party that doesn't have any idea how far it's fallen.
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Re: Teabagger fringe lunatics have taken over the Republican party and Dems in NY-23....
Stones,
Your post here just shows how little you know about the Tea Party Patriots and your lack of insight to figure it out your self.
Tea Party Patriots are not Democrats, not Republicans, not Libertarians or any other Political party. Tea Party Patriots are all of the above and think our government is gong in the wrond direction.
Again I post. The Repub. candidate did not get the support of the TPP, could see the hand writing on the wall and left. When she gave her support to the Dems., it proves she was not conservative in the first place.
This is the first election for a TTP supported candate. If he wins, it will be a big win for TTP. Lets Just see what happens there.
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11/3/2009, 1:02 pm
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Re: Teabagger fringe lunatics have taken over the Republican party and Dems in NY-23....
Fair enough Elk....let me then rephrase my Op:
If that sort of scenario is what qualifies for a victory these days in Conservative circles, then this won't be a story of a movement that has finally found its footing, it'll be the story of a conservative party that doesn't have any idea how far it's fallen.
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11/3/2009, 1:49 pm
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Re: Teabagger fringe lunatics have taken over the Republican party and Dems in NY-23....
Hoff man doesn't even live in the district! Now, I seem to recall that that sort of thing had a name. Oh, yes, carpetbagger!
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Re: Teabagger fringe lunatics have taken over the Republican party and Dems in NY-23....
Polly,
The people that live in that district are free to vote for who they want. If they think a "Carpet Bagger" will represent them better than the Dem. who are you to deny them their choice.
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Re: Teabagger fringe lunatics have taken over the Republican party and Dems in NY-23....
Elk, do you hold the same opinion about US Senators?
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Re: Teabagger fringe lunatics have taken over the Republican party and Dems in NY-23....
tea baggers are not about dems or repubs
lmao
And the RNC made a quick ad buy to push the Conservative Party's Hoffman, who inherited the GOP's support
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Hofmans Conservative Party of New York State is an American political party active in the state of New York. It is not part of any nationwide party, nor is it affiliated with the American Conservative Party, which it predates by over 40 years.
History
The Conservative Party of New York State was founded in 1962 by a group including J. Daniel Mahoney, Charles E. Rice, and Charles Edison, out of frustration with the perceived liberalism of the state's Republican Party. A key consideration was New York's fusion voting, almost unique among US States, allowing candidates to accumulate separate votes from more than one party. This was being used by the Liberal Party of New York to encourage Republican and Democratic candidates to compete for Left-leaning support. The Conservative Party founders hoped to balance the Liberal Party's influence. An early supporter was National Review founder William F. Buckley, who served as the party's candidate for mayor of New York City in 1965. In 1970, William's brother James Buckley was elected to the U.S. Senate as a Conservative Party candidate; however, in 1976, he ran for reelection as a candidate of the Republican and Conservative Parties, losing to Daniel Patrick Moynihan. In the 2004 U.S. Senate election, the Conservative Party endorsed Marilyn O'Grady to oppose Republican candidate Howard Mills and incumbent Democratic Senator Charles Schumer.
The Conservative Party of New York State has often been aligned with Catholic voters and candidates.
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Rather than nominating its own candidates, the Conservative Party usually endorses the same candidates as the Republican Party and campaigns against the Democratic candidates. It withholds this support from the Republicans if it deems them too liberal. For example, the Conservative Party withheld its support from Republican Rudy Giuliani's fusion campaigns with endorsement from the Liberal Party for New York City mayor in 1989, 1993[1] and 1997[2]. The decision not to endorse party-switching Syracuse state Senator Nancy Larraine Hoffmann cost the GOP that seat in the 2004 election. However it has also endorsed Democratic candidates as well, such as controversial former Buffalo mayor and presidential candidate Jimmy Griffin, who was initially elected mayor solely on the Conservative ticket but had Republican support as well for his subsequent campaigns. It also cross-endorsed such Democrats as former Manhattan District Attorney Frank Hogan and Capital District Congressman Michael McNulty. No Republican has won statewide office in New York without Conservative Party support since 1974.
But elk and his rightards want to leach onto them now , until they nominate someone they do not like that is , this has nothing to do with the sore loser tea bagger republicans
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Re: Teabagger fringe lunatics have taken over the Republican party and Dems in NY-23....
Polly,
"Elk, do you hold the same opinion about US Senators?"
If it's legal, why not?
Polly, how do you feel about dead voters. Should they be counted?
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Re: Teabagger fringe lunatics have taken over the Republican party and Dems in NY-23....
Elk, dead people don't vote, they rot in a box.
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Re: Teabagger fringe lunatics have taken over the Republican party and Dems in NY-23....
What Stoned is talking around is the fact that the combined totals of the Conservative and the Republican (who is not running) are in the majority when combined.
It is possible the Conservative candidate could win, but even if he does not. This turnout for him says it all. People want change, and liberals do not offer it.
Poor Democrat: He can not even get 50% let alone 51% of the vote, even after the liberal Republican candidate dropped out and threw her support to the Democrat.
A landslide and positive message to the Democrats? Only in the minds of nit-witted liberals.
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