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Kev2012
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Re: Has The War Made Us Safer?
I’ve picked the easy answer (still need more time) I think our heroes dieing is a massive burden on the country, and the heroes families, yet, they are dieing to liberate a people that was being crushed by it’s own “ruler”. The signs are great, the country is coming together with some structure to it, it still needs a MASSIVE amount of time but I think Iraq is becoming a better place to live for it’s people.
Now, we have the question of whether us going into war has made us a terrorist target, well firstly I’d like to dispel a myth, no it hasn’t. We’ve always been a target, the terrorists have been living amongst us for decades and are merely using Iraq as a catalyst, if it wasn’t Iraq it would have been some other “reason” for their betrayal.
So at the end of the day Iraq is on the up, but time is needed to see if the rest of the world can deal and handle the threat of terrorist attacks.
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I am Iranian and I always admired Bill Clinton (now apart from the scandal and the jokes) I always had a good opinion on typical Americans. I always remember Bill Clinton shaking hands with people in a stadium just as if he was an ordinary civilian, no bodyguard, no secret agents to watch his back. America always resembled peace to me at that young age. Many of my family members live in US and all around the world for that matter. After President Bush were elected and imposed the war on Iraq, I got a whole different view on Americans and their logic and humanity. Mind you, I have many American friends who are truly nice people and whom I respect. However, how can a sane nation decide to achieve PEACE through WAR? How can a nation decide the destiny of another nation? I have lived through a war myself, the war between Iran and Iraq which brings very sad memories to me. I remember stories of the close relatives who lost loved ones; I remember my father's stories of the front line. My father was the army medic and he had horrible stories to tell us each time he came home for a short visit. We had to leave our hometown and move to another city, “Mashhad" to escape the bombarding. No school, No evening long walks with mommy and daddy. With each "red alarm,” , be it in the morning or sometime after midnight, we had to run to the basement and hold out heads between our hands and knees, and our mother would hold our ears so that we would not be frightened. A Typical American girl of my age has not lived through a war. Has not heard the bombs exploding and ruining a neighbor house. until 9/11 has not known what "PANIC" means, does not know what it means to have to say farewell to your father at the age of 6 and worry if you would see him ever again or you would only see a picture of his slaughtered body in a morgue. Indeed the war of Iraq made President Bush have an easier night sleep, (only for some short period it seems), but it DID bring disaster to many American parents who lost their beloved young sons and daughters in Iraq. To many young lovers who lost their pair and only got a dog tag to remind them of their lost love. It brought panic and heartache to almost all Iraqis. Many children an orphan, many parents left childless. I would really want to know if dear accursed scribe, if he had the misfortune of being born an Iraqi, would have liked an American to comment so heedlessly about the fate of his Land, his family and his loved ones, calling the war imposed on them as means to keep peace.
I would like to end my long sad comment with my favorite quote on war:
In the war of elephants, the grass dies.
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Kev2012
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how can a sane nation decide to achieve PEACE through WAR?
I agree with the a vast chunk of what you say but sometimes insanity doesn't follow the logic that you highlight above. When you deal with somebody like Saddam, who i think could be put under the title of insane, the ball park changes and all rules get blown out of the water. I think we live in a world where a bias media dictates a great part of what we see and thus what we "feel". Just for example if you had ever seen any of the footage that Al-Jazeera showed, compared to the BBC, for example, you would think they were reported on two different things. Iraq suddenly hasn't changed because America's war on "SADDAM" and his regime (not Iraq), and America isn't suddenly a volatile place to live since the war on Saddam began, who were the antagonists of 9/11 for instance? I seem to remember an innocent nation lost hundreds of its citizens and they could simply not sit back and turn a blind eye anymore. Iraq will take time to heel and hopefully one day ALL Iraqi citizens will be able to live out the gift of freedom. Just recently Iraqi citizens voted a new government, the first step.
I also think you shouldn't judge America, and it's people, on what President Bush has done, or what it gets reported he's done. America has been a part of two world wars and numerous civil wars, granted modern generations don’t directly get affected the same way but the scars of war never die and I’m pretty confident in saying that war is a last resort that a nation would resort to.
It's interesting you mention the Iran and Iraq war, where Britain, AMERICA and many other peace keeping nations came, in essence, to help maintain Iran’s freedom when Iraq invaded Iran. Kuwait, and all Kuwaiti people, were persecuted and murdered by Saddam. This “man” was killing his own citizens for following a wrong religion; he once murdered 2000 people when an attempt was made on his life. I think other nations had a morale obligation to intervene, just like they have done on previous occasions. The only thing that we as a democrat society (all democrat societies) should regret is that a) we didn’t act sooner and b) more countries didn’t stand together at the start, to free Iraq of Saddam’s oppression. America is getting a lot of flak but who else acted? France? Russia? Germany? China? Blinkered vision, sitting on a fence like it didn’t affect them. America is now as hated as it’s ever been and why? For sending it’s people into another country because a man was not only a threat to the outside world, but persecuting his own citizens.
As an Englishmen, i lost my Granddad to war, i never got to meet my Granddad yet he is the biggest hero in my life, many other Britain's lost family, friends we lost generations through bravely standing firm, but the fact remains if other countries didn't came to our aid, namely America, i'd not be enjoying the freedom i have today!
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