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The Moses Code
Have any of you seen this movie, or read the book?
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Re: The Moses Code
What the...? 
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Re: The Moses Code
the trailer was compelling enough, i look forward to seeing the movie. 
have you ever seen "what the bleep do we know?" morwen?
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No, I haven't even heard of it.
I have the movie of this Moses code thing. I started watching it yesterday, thinking that there would be more to it than just talking heads.
Not so, it is a long drawn out lecture about how GOD should be part of our lives: G for giving, O for oneness and D - by the time I found D (I was fast-forwarding through it by the time it got halfway through the G lecture), so I didn't both with what the D was for.
Apparently the idea is that when god said to Moses "I am what I am", he was really saying "I am, what I am" (have I got the comma in the right place, shows how interested I was). Now I'm not a real believer that Moses actually wrote the story, but I am a believer in the idea that ancient works shouldn't have their texts or grammar, or punctuation, altered to suit modern needs. This is in effect what these people are doing.
To me that had the most impact. My response was WTF, do you change Shakespeare, Herodotus, Thucydides, Plato, Socrates etc, to give sentences new modern-day meanings so you can prove your particular belief-system is right?
OK I get the whole thing about 9/11, I understand and I am 100% behind the effort that ordinary people put into making sure that people who could be saved were saved. I am also 100% behind charity and people who have too much giving to people who don't have very much. But I am not for 'giving' because in giving we are also receiving. That is not charity. You give something to charity, money, clothes, books, everything you own, whatever, and then walk away. You don't give to charity and then wait for the 'showers of blessings' that will fall on you. That's greed.
So I'm pleased I heard about this. I like to know what new kooky belief systems are out there so I can arm myself to pick a fight with them. But not for any other reason than to be able to offer an informed opinion that this is a whole lot of rubbish.
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And I always thought that "I am what I am" was a quote from Popeye the Sailor Man.
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But I am not for 'giving' because in giving we are also receiving. That is not charity. You give something to charity, money, clothes, books, everything you own, whatever, and then walk away.
so was that part of the movies message? "give for the sake of what you gain from it"?
if so, i dont think i care to see it after all...
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It's hard to know exactly what they mean by that without context. If they mean that giving will bring good things to you (like with karma, what goes around comes around), then I agree that it's a bad message. But if they mean that the pleasure in giving is its own reward, then that would be a good message, in my opinion.
Based on what the Moses Code appears to be about and its connection with "The Secret," I would guess they are probably talking about the former. 
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I have seen the movie The Secret after my mom read the book. It was how to put it, exhaustively boring nevertheless insightful. I never really thought about it but, I already grasped the concept before. Some people just have a mind for explaining these things. I don't doubt that Moses Code is any different. In that, it makes the supposition that anyone and everyone can accomplish some kind of insight I guess... from it. That isn't the case however, most people are not capable of knowing the mind of God or even those of his appointed messengers. So why I think that it is self defeating in its purpose by trying to explain it is actually creating greater mystery in its attempt at truth. In essence it can only complicate those human contradictions that are ever present in religion on a grander scale. My best contribution is, to quote something that Jack Kerouac wrote , "Practice charity without holding in mind any conceptions about charity." 
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