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poor planning.
Was Jesus incompetent? If you had magic powers (still having trouble with the fact that grown-ups believe this stuff) would you turn water into wine, or eradicate world hunger? Would you raise a dead guy to impress chicks, or would you eradicate childhood cancers? Would you choose a back-woods part of the world that has never really contributed much to humanity, in a time when anyone would believe anything, or would you wait at least until the invention of the internet before bringing forth an apparently important message about your father (a psychotic mass murderer)?
At the very least, doesn't Jesus owe us another crucifixion? I mean, 2000 years is a pretty long time to be on vacation.
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Re: poor planning.
Fighting words those, Scott!
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Re: poor planning.
If Stephen Hawking were suddenly and inexplicably cured of his ALS and could walk again, then I might start to believe in miracles. That still wouldn't prove that the miracle was performed by the Jesus or God in biblical stories, and it could very well be Zeus or any number of gods or some other force that could have caused it. 
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Re: poor planning.
Ah, the force, it is strong in young Hawking.
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I wish...
Morwen Oronor said:
Fighting words those, Scott!
mmm... I doubt it. I don't think there's a Christian who would touch this stuff with a ten foot pole. Those who would are now atheists. Asking why Jesus didn't bother to write anything down doesn't sit well with them, either. Literacy should probably be part and parcel of being a perfect being, and doing doodles in the sand once doesn't count.
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Re: poor planning.
I would definitely expect a perfect being to be able to read and write. Heck, don't most informed Christians even acknowledge the fact that nothing was written during the time when Jesus is alleged to have lived? So why, then, did none of the supposed eyewitnesses write anything down as it was happening, or at least the next day? If the message is so important, one might expect Jesus to pick at least one literate person to tag along with him, rather than rely on word of mouth for a few to several decades before it was written down by people who didn't even witness it.
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True, hey, you'd think that a mover-and-shaker would have at least one biographer following his every miracle.
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Re: poor planning.
Hell, if I lived back then and knew of such a guy, you can bet your arse I'd have been following him around with parchment and reed... or whatever they wrote with back then. 
Edit: Not only that, but I'd be drawing pictures, too.
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Re: poor planning.
I always say he was the original hippie. I would definitely have been doing the same thing, as you say, even if they couldn't write, they could always have drawn pictures, even stick figures would've been something.
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Re: poor planning.
You don't think Confucius or Socrates were hippies? They both lived centuries before Jesus supposedly did.
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