praying4patience
I can't reason,
so I pick fights.
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whatever
"We go out of our way to help you understand things"
what a nice implication.we have to go to our board to learn something because we are just not as smart as you guys.
This means we disagree with you basically.If we agreed we'd be just as smart as you guyz.
"Further, your responses don't exhibit any original thought, as you merely quote unreliable sources and use the old "because the Bible says so" excuse. Sorry, but you can't prove your case by quoting a known pathological liar, and as far as some of us are concerned (myself included), the Bible isn't any more reliable than a pathological liar."
You're entitled to your opinion.
I have never said "because the Bible says so". There isn't a Catholic in the world that's an adherent of sola scriptura.I rarely quote scripture. In most of the posts it's the other person who brought it up first.
Sir Frederic Kenyon, in The Story of the Bible, notes that "For all the works of classical antiquity we have to depend on manuscripts written long after their original composition. The author who is the best case in this respect is Virgil, yet the earliest manuscript of Virgil that we now possess was written some 350 years after his death. For all other classical writers, the interval between the date of the author and the earliest extant manuscript of his works is much greater. For Livy it is about 500 years, for Horace 900, for most of Plato 1,300, for Euripides 1,600." Yet no one seriously disputes that we have accurate copies of the works of these writers. However, in the case of the New Testament we have parts of manuscripts dating from the first and early second centuries, only a few decades after the works were penned.
Not only are the biblical manuscripts that we have older than those for classical authors, we have in sheer numbers far more manuscripts from which to work. Some are whole books of the Bible, others fragments of just a few words, but there are literally thousands of manuscripts in Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Coptic, Syriac, and other languages.
So your idea that the bible was composed by pathological liars doesn't hold water.I think you used the term pathological LIAR.That in itself is not correct,since it was written by many authors.
"You are free to waste your time praying to your invisible friend in church, you are free to waste your money in tithes that the poor might see a small percentage of, after the rest lines the pockets of priests and bishops and builds grandiose churches that don't need to be so grandiose (and don't need to be built, imo). "
The poor see a large percentage LG. If you really want to talk about grandiose we can go there. I bet you spend far more tithing to your celebrity gods(and you're free to do so)to pay for their mansions,limos,drugs,alcohol and high life styles. Yeah,they give to the poor but it's your money lining their pockets. I can show you grandiose homes built for creature comforts that the poor can only imagine. At least a church is built once for worship.NOT for ego and comfort.
I can go there if you want and we'll see just how much the churches and religous institutions do for the poor.I don't mean just financially either.
"But when you try to use your unfounded beliefs as "proof" when it is NOT, in a forum where actual evidence is expected up front, you can't expect us to take you seriously. "
I get your point.You don't have to take anything seriously. On the other hand you don't take anyone seriously that doesn't agree with you.So it's pointless.Until we come around and go lock step you're not going to take us seriously anyway.There's sufficient evidence that God exsists. The problem is no amount of evidence would convince you.
Note;i said SUFFICIENT evidence.
GB!~
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Re: whatever
Instead of saturating this forum with multiple whiny spam threads and copy/pasting the same reply to both, let's keep them both in one thread:
p4p's other thread
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