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Man Cited For Singing Rap Song
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BROOKSVILLE, FL -- A 19-year-old was taken to jail Sunday evening for singing the profane words of a rap song when children were around.
The children's mother, Amy Churchill, called Hernando County sheriff's deputies and complained that Christopher Holder was yelling profanities as he walked with two juveniles on Gordon Loop in Brooksville. Churchill said that her two children did not need to hear such language, according to an offense report.
Holder told deputies he did nothing wrong and was actually singing the words to a song by rapper Lil' Boosie.
He even told deputies that “he did not believe children needed to hear [that kind of] language,” the report says.
Still, Holder was arrested for disorderly conduct and taken to the Hernando County Jail.
I was reading a user submitted news site this morning and ran a crossed this. I thought it might be an interesting topic to discuss here so I decided to post it.
I really don't think This guy should have been arrested for disorderly conduct, First of all, the whole freedom of speech comes to mind, but second of all, The article says “he did not believe children needed to hear [that kind of] language,” So maybe he didn't know young children were present? It sounds to me like The mother might be a little over protective, and would have taught her children a better lesson, if she would have just asked the guy if he would not use that language, rather than call the police. I mean the kids will eventually hear cuss words, is she going to run to the police each time she hears one near her kids?
And then there is the whole, words are words thing... In my past I was called a lot of names by my Dad, It seemed like worthless, dumbass, crooked face, and **** head was his pet names for me, and it use to really bother me.. but as time progressed I've come to realize that words are simply just a bunch of letters that were put together to form a sound. Now a days I feel a little amazed at how much people let simple words effect them. Like the word *****, it's just a word, and out of courtesy I rarely use it.. but a ***** is a female dog, the word ***** still comes up a lot with Dog Breeders, they say it without the red embarresed face. So if someone calls you a *****, they are implying that you are a dog, that you have a tail.. If it's not true, then why is calling someone a ***** known as 'fighting words'? To cut this paragraph short, I don't really get why words are such a taboo.
I think that some parents, probably a lot like the lady in this news story, are extremelyt over protective over their children, which yes, the young need protected, but they also have to learn to live, and learn to make their own decisions.
Anyway I need to cut this post short, gotta get ready for work now. Does anyone have any feedback?
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Re: Man Cited For Singing Rap Song
Hello Phoenix,
This is not my board, but I was intrested in your article.
I agree that the mother was being painfully and detrimentally overprotective of the children, and the cop that responded and arrested the 19 year old was seriously overreacting also. I am hoping that the story is not true.
There are much betterways of handling things that would both have taught the children what was appropriate language and behavior for their age , and not caused trouble for another human being for no apparant reason.
Perhaps the mother called the police because she was afrais- and if the teenager was still around and still singing by the time the cops showed up, maybe it wasn't so innocent. I was not there, so I cannot judge, but I do agree that it probably could have been handles in an entirely different manner.
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Re: Man Cited For Singing Rap Song
asking cops to arrest people for cursing around children? why? does fear rule someone to such a degree that they feel incapable of speaking directly to the person cursing around the kids themself?
for one it is an incredible waste of an officers time to bother them with something this trite.
for two people should stop living in such a paralysis of fear and apprehension that there no longer able to do something without "big brother" being a part of it.
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I think it was ridiculous. Every day I hear swearing and as mentioned before, all sorts of details, broacasted by cell phone users. Especially in the school's drop off line.
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I do agree that sometimes it is overbearing.. and people should still have the right to not have curse words and what not around their children.. but I don't think it was right for someone to get arrested.. to have a record.. because they were singing along to a song, or singing a song whichever it was.
You cannot protect your child from LIFE. If you want to keep your child from hearing curse words- do not take the child out of the house, do not take the child to a public forum- such as a grocery store, or Mall, or the department store, or the library, or even your church. Do not allow telphone, television, nor even telgraph into your home.
There are a lot more important things for the police department to be taking care of these days- especially when it comes to ACTUALLY protecting childre. And Jinzy- While I do not envy you the task of explaining to Goo-Bear what she overhears, and I understand the difficulty involved- At least you are equipped to go up to the people involved and ask them to keep their voice down, unlike the mother in the story, who had not learned manners of her own it seems.
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I see your point, and know exactly what you mean.. there has been times I have been out with my nephews and there would be people that I either just wanted to whack upside the head, or report to the store/restaurant, because of their foul mouths or acting like idiots (throwing stuff, using straws as "spitwad launchers" and all.. but I never did.
