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The united states reluctantly took the role of 'world police' fallowing the end of the second world war era. their were no other national powers absent russia who were capable of nation building. europe was completely destroyed.
and china was hardly even developed, both countries were industrially and economically inadequate.


American interventionism was the only viable option otherwise world order would have likely spiraled in to a state of feudalism, anarchism or sub-modern tribalism. the bottom line is absent comprehensive intervention.
be it through the russians or the americans, civilization would have declined in to a new dark age...

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  the first part. I don't know about reluctantly tho. The "USA" realized great economic value by rebuilding Europe


A doubt that a new dark age would have befallen civilization. Let us take the German example after WWI. Should the USSR or USA not have intervened. The same conditions were present that spawned a nation to look at any and all hopes for salvation. So I add to the list despotism.

on sub-modern tribalism, perhaps another thread can discuss the impact of global culture and the quest for modern ethnic identity as it impacts national allegiance/culture.

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i agree. but i don't think its accurate to use WWI vs. WWII scenarios because they were two distinct wars fought in two different eras. WWI was fought and had ended before the league of nations had been conceptualized or let alone implemented. the LoN established global laws and standards, monetary systems and policy, doctrines and rules etc. my point is that from the early 1900's, immediately fallowing WWI, to the mid 1900's, fallowing WWII, the nation-state had become increasingly globalized and irreversibly interoperable and interdependent on one another. fallowing WWII all nation-states had to be aligned with a super power for their own survival, be it the U.S.S.R. or the U.S.A. with respects to global order and its sustainability, the super power(s) were, and still are, indispensable.

  

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I seen they just appointed a EUROPEAN PRESIDENT....it's coming together wonderfully for the NWO.

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Post 2009

The president's role will be largely administrative, coordinating the work of the European Council, organising and chairing its meetings, and reporting to the European Parliament after each meeting; the president will also represent the Union in foreign policy "without prejudice to the powers of the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy".[17]

The considerable overlap between the roles of the President of the European Council, the President of the Commission, and the High Representative—notably in foreign policy—leaves uncertainty about how much influence the President of the European Council will acquire.

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