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http://www.amazon.com/Anger-Madness-Daimonic-Psychological-Creativity/dp/0791430766/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227288672&sr=8-1

Following links from Lynn's article I found this.

I think there is a simple lesson here. If you feel angry (and maybe my own anxiety and PTSD that has plagued me for 15 years and I have medicated with citalopram is a case in point).....express it and find a creative way of expressing it too. Paint, draw, write prose, write poetry, make sculptures, collages, photographic images, use photoshop. Look at the real surrealists of the early 20th century and follow their lead. Access your unconscious anger and express it in a creative way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrealism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrealist_techniques

Introducing Andre Breton

http://home.wlv.ac.uk/~fa1871/whatsurr.html

'The word "surrealism" having thereupon become descriptive of the generalizable undertaking to which we had devoted ourselves, I thought it indispensable, in 1924, to define this word once and for all:

    SURREALISM, n. Pure psychic automatism, by which it is intended to express, verbally, in writing, or by other means, the real process of thought. Thought's dictation, in the absence of all control exercised by the reason and outside all aesthetic or moral preoccupations.
    ENCYCL. Philos. Surrealism rests in the belief in the superior reality of certain forms of association neglected heretofore; in the omnipotence of the dream and in the disinterested play of thought. It tends definitely to do away with all other psychic mechanisms and to substitute itself for them in the solution of the principal problems of life. Have professed absolute surrealism: Messrs. Aragon, Baron, Boiffard, Breton, Carrive, Crevel, Delteil, Desnos, Eluard, Gérard, Limbour, Malkine, Morise, Naville, Noll, Péret, Picon, Soupault, Vitrac.
    These till now appear to be the only ones.... Were one to consider their output only superficially, a goodly number of poets might well have passed for surrealists, beginning with Dante and Shakespeare at his best. In the course of many attempts I have made towards an analysis of what, under false pretences, is called genius, I have found nothing that could in the end be attributed to any other process than this.'

Magritte

http://www.magritte.be/

http://www.surrealists.co.uk/magritte.php

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We went down Spainway on hols, and called into that surrealist guy's place. Can't think of his name. I keep thinking and the name Egon Ronay keeps coming into it, and of course it is not him. He's really famous, too, perhaps the most famous.....God, what's his name, er, seriously, I just can't think. Er, ...er, I can't believe this, that i can't remember. Er... Egon R... no, er...thingy...er....hmmmm, God, can't think. This is crazy. er....Egon , no er... Marcel Marso....no, er... Curly moustash, you know who i mean......er. Well, anyway, we went there, and it truely was amazing. Some very interesting pieces of work. Anyway, the thing was that I sort of felt he was there in spirit, and I felt that he entered my body and ..............Ah, Salvador Dali.........and made me walk in very large strides. When we left the building, we went for a Spannish omelette, and that is when I felt him leave my body and go back to his art.

Do you think this is possible, or was it just me. I'm not kidding. It was a very strange thing.
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Scarlet, another thing about this i would like to say is that I am very interested in the writing of Thomas De Quincey, and I feel he was at the very forefront of the surrealist movement and the Freudian interpretation of dreams, writing about this subject before Freud was born, and based on his opium-dream experiences, in which he connects the surrealism with his inner self. His fears would be represented buy the breath and kisses of crocodiles whilst entombed inside pyramids for thousands of years, whilst surrounded by symbols of Hinduism, the sheer antiquity of Eastern culture representing his inner insecurities.

There is no doubt that there are benefits to healing via surrealism, but getting a handle on it seems tricky.
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Sorry Lotty...only just seen your reply.

"There is no doubt that there are benefits to healing via surrealism, but getting a handle on it seems tricky."

I know...I think really all you need to do is CREATE...noone needs to see it. I am not a good example...haven't done any pieces. But I have often PLANNED paintings and sculptures when i have been in a lot of distress. I have done sketches with notes in a notebook.

The thing is...by the time I would get around to DOING them the crisis or feelings have gone. Its as if the PLANNING and imagining and the actual creating of the object/painting in my head did the work.

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LOVE southern Spain...only been once. Went to Nerja. Flew from John Lennon airport to Malaga on Easyjet with my sis and her friends. One day I want to drive around Andalucia.

I like Picasso (he's from Malaga isn't he??)....he was an N for certain...poor old Dora Marr...she was the crying woman...said so much to me that painting when I was emerging from NPDland.
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based on his opium-dream experiences, in which he connects the surrealism with his inner self. His fears would be represented buy the breath and kisses of crocodiles whilst entombed inside pyramids for thousands of years, whilst surrounded by symbols of Hinduism, the sheer antiquity of Eastern culture representing his inner insecurities.


WOW!!!

I'm really fascinated by this stuff. I'll look him up.



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Looked him up....wow...settled in Grasmere.....went walkabout in Wales...mother mived in Bath and Chester...went to Manchester Grammar School....blah de blah de blah....all so familiar.

I thought he was some ancient french monk!!!
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I am sat at this keyboard, in the kitchen, and at ten o'clock, to my left is an old-fashioned set of weigh scales whith the brass weights in a line of descending order, and I can feel the middle weight is 'alive', whereas the others are inanimate, and suddenly, going with the flow, this particular weight has, in my imagination, melted to liquid in five seconds to form a pool of melted shiney metal which has run over the edge of the cupboard top and is dripping away onto the floor.

As this happened, I have to say that 'something' did click around deep inside me, the literal representaion of dissolving troubles.

I look now at the clock on the wall, again, it living and breathing, with a regular calmness. This time I imagine the fingers are floating about the clockface randomly, unfixed to any point, making no sense, and then, giving this daydream free rein, the clock fingers choose to float directly onto the fixed central point and begin to move in order as clock fingers naturally do.

This time, what clicked inside me was a sense of returning order.



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Wonderful!!

I had a dream last night...and I 'beat' the baddies. Don't particularly want to remember it but all through the dream I was one step ahead of them and walked away safe.
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http://www.baat.org/clientscomments.html

Art Therapy is a form of psychotherapy that uses art media as its primary mode of communication.

Clients who are referred to an art therapist need not have previous experience or skill in art, the art therapist is not primarily concerned with making an aesthetic or diagnostic assessment of the client's image. The overall aim of its practitioners is to enable a client to effect change and growth on a personal level through the use of art materials in a safe and facilitating environment.

..........................

  "I wish other professionals had pointed this out to me much earlier. Sometimes we are so involved with something/someone we can't get a handle on it. Art therapy has helped me to deal with issues that are hard to verbalise. If I'd been helped to understand part of the nature of obsession like this earlier I might not have wasted so much time"

  "Sessions have helped me express things inside me which would otherwise have been suppressed. They have helped me gain insights into myself & my life situation and highlight issues that I didn't know were inside me. Sometimes, when just using words, my real feelings are avoided & drawing & colour helps me to get in touch with what is going on at a deeper level.

Art therapy has helped me to see & deal with issues in a more conscious way. It has helped me to speak my mind & even be open with others about what I think & how I feel. I'm beginning to see that it's OK to have my own opinions and views that may differ from others & that if I am hurt or upset about something it's OK to talk about it."

  "Art therapy has been very good for me and because I am Dyslexic. I found it hard to write thing down, doing art it has helped me to explain thing better. It has given me more time try and understand my feeling past, present and future. Sometimes negatives thing come out for you and you may not like them and may not know how to Deal with it. I think art therapy can help you overcome them."

  "Art therapy has surprised me by showing up feelings that I had suppressed or been unaware of issues that were buried inside me. I have been able to consider how I might deal with them."

  "I learnt to face my feelings and my thoughts on paper in disarray just like my mind. I also found that it became a mirror image of my feelings. It has helped me face reality."

   "I have learnt more about myself and feelings I held within. I also talked in detail of issues that before with counselling I couldn't discuss. I learnt to say 'no' more, to consider my feelings first."

  "Art therapy provided me with a safe space to express painful and difficult thoughts and feelings that I had been unable to deal with in the past, on a deeper level and to discover feelings and thoughts I had previously been unaware of. At times during therapy I would talk whilst making an image and express very difficult emotions without realising I was doing so.

The therapy helped me to gain an insight into my patterns of thought and behaviour, and the areas of my life where I needed to make changes. Because the therapy was long term I felt it gave me the opportunity I needed to develop trust in my therapist, and the confidence to confront major issues in my life to make life-changing decisions and follow them through. It got me to the door and I walked through it"

  "It gives me a space where I can put my feelings instead of always self-harming. It is also helping me to come to terms with my problems, some which I didn't think I would be allowed to let out into the adult world."

  "I now have a full time job. With your help, I took the plunge and faced my problems. I realised that I was not to blame for everything that happened last 15 years. I now continued with my art again realising that I have a gift and that life is worth living for! I still have odd low days but I write or paint situations down and looking at them later see it in different light. Thank you for making me feel important again."

  "At times, it has been quite painful as it has made me face truths and realities I had spent many long years avoiding. My Art Therapist has enabled me to rethink negative behaviours and outcomes. I was encouraged to think more positively of myself and nurture my self esteem; I began to have the courage to make decisions - right or wrong- for myself. Because of Art therapy I have been able to make life-changing decisions"

  "It helped me to come to terms with a lot of things. Based on my experience with this kind of therapy I would recommend anyone to try it."

  "I have felt a liberating effect as I am beginning to open to artistic expression"

  "I have tried lots of ways to try & understand my 'problems' and cannot sort them out. Art therapy has definitely helped/helping me understand a lot more"

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