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Just for your information Dave.

Simpson didn't remove the moderators, Glitter did.

If you look down the page at Admin, you'll find that Glitter still owns the board. She was also the one who deleted great parts of the board, probably so Simpson didn't find out what she'd been saying about him.

Dave you are behaving like a 2 year old. How can you expect anybody to take you seriously when you behave like this?

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Having taken some of the criticisms/childish whinging on board, I have decided that it is better that I am not seen as anyone's personal whipping boy. So I have made Kitty here a mod, to counter what some might think are my more "dictatorial" tendencies.

Kitty, you can communicate with me via PM or through Facebook, or I'll give you my email addy if you prefer. No need for secret forums for mods when there's just the two of us.

I hope that is an end to this rather tedious discussion about moderation of a barely functioning board.

Can we please now get on with making this place look more attractive to outsiders instead of a cliquey *****-fest?

Thanks

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Kitty,

We now have threads being deleted, threads being closed and all criticism being supressed. You may feel it is childish but maybe I am just getting fed up dealing with dictatorial board owners.

I am glad you are a mod, but what is clear is that you are a mod based on the whim of the owner. He could stop you being a mod just as Glitter stopped us all being mods (apols to Simpson for accusing him of this). He could stop your threads as he is stopping our threads.

You may feel it is pity but freedom of expression is about the only thing that is important on a discussion board. If we can only post what you and Simpson like, then what is going to make this any different from the approach of the previous regime?

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Dave - ultimately this board's software doesn't really allow for someone to be 'voted in' as a mod. It still relies on one person making the adjustment to another poster's status, so I could still refuse or agree to make someone a mod 'on a whim'.

Please let's just move on from this now. I'm stopping your threads because they're pointless and not adding to the board in any way. PM me for any further discussion of these issues.

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I have absolutely no problem with differing view points, however childish threads that state hail the dictator are unhelpful and rude. I too would like this board to work towards a democratically elected mod team and if trade picks up it will.

At the moment nothing new is being posted and read except these arguments.

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The problem is Kitty, that there is no indication that there is any will towards moving towards an elected system. Simpson's comment that it is not possible is not true and Kylie and I worked out a process and timetable.

If Glitter had not deleted the moderated area and transferred ownership when she did, we were ready to outline the process and ask for nominations.

One of the real concerns I have is that already we have threads deleted and stopped on the criteria that "the owner does not like them". Up until a few days ago, posts were edited or deleted ONLY if they were offensive and those decisions were made by a group not an individual. Simpson has already started closing and deleting threads based on what he personally wants and that is a real cause for concern.

Based on previous records, what happens when we start getting pro-muslim posts or anti-lecturer posts and you have a single person who may or may not delete based entirely on their subjective opinion on whether these posts are helpful or the kind of posts they want.

At the moment, all criticism of Simpson is being instantly shut down and that should worry everyone here. The last person who did that quite so blatantly was Robert at the NT board.

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." -Noam Chomsky


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Dave - seriously, get over yourself. Criticism of me is not being "shut down", needless, aimless, pointless noodling about the loss of the admin forum, the sacking of the mods and the hankering for making more mods than this board needs is being shut down as a waste of everyone's time.

Please, I'm asking you to expend some energy on posting topics to the health and nursing forum or the general forum or to debating issues raised there rather than chewing over old dead bones.

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The problem is Simpson that you are the one who is closing down a thread because you feel "it is wasting everyone's time". Since when was a post being "a waste of time" a criteria for moderating? And in whose view? If you think it is a waste of your time, then don't read it. Shutting it down stops anyone from reading or commenting further .

The reality is that YOU don't like it and therefore YOU are closing them down. To you it feels a "waste of time" and to me it feels a really important issue. But because you have absolute control over the forum, there is no discussion within the moderator community or even a clear guidelines against which posts are or are not moderated, and quite simply what you say goes.

You have moderated more yourself today than all of us former moderators have done in the last month. That isn't good for freedom of speech or for the health of the board.

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Whatever. I really have other, more important things in my life than this board. I am just trying to move things on from what is rapidly becoming ancient history. It would be great if you would do the same.



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Then turn the ownership and moderation of the board over to a democratically elected process as the moderators were about to do before we were all disbanded and Glitter put you in charge.

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