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When you ask for feedback, ask if you were "above the line". That means that you were appointable but that there were better candidates. If you were "below the line" then ask which areas you need to develop.

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I'm sorry you didn't get the post, but as I said if there is any chance of your being the only nurse on duty the prison will normally expect to employ experienced nurses, hence the A/E, MAU nurses being there, and probably some nurses with psyche experience as well. You may need to get some experience in one of those areas, before you get a chance to work in a prison.

When I started the minimum acceptable level and experience was 2 years at "E " grade, plus bringing a care speciality to the area.

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Thanlyou for all your support and comments, i will do that dave thankyou for the advice.
I have sent of another application form , so see what happens.
I do take on board what you are saying uberposter but i can only do my best and try.
I have got a interview next week for a Theatre Practitioner positioner so i do feel very privalaged to be in the position of at least getting this far.
Uberposter they must have thought i had some qualities to bring to the position or they wouldnt have invited me for a interview??????????, or maybe i was just there to make the numbers up????.

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Sometimes you can be there just to make up the numbers and that is why being "above the line" is so important. Generally what happens is that all the applicants are sifted into "good", "average" and "poor". Then depending on how many people can be interviewed (based on timings and panel size), the good and average applicants are selected for interview.

During the interview, applicants are judged to be "above the line" (i.e. appointable) or "below the line" (i.e. not appointable). Then the panel choose from the appointable candidates and this can be based on very subtle differences and sometimes even who they think they will get on best with.

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Thankyou for that, i am hoping i get feedback from the interview.
I have asked in writing, as i have phoned a numbers of times and been told they are to busy, thought this way may not get there backs up and i may get a response(hopefully). emoticon

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The Prison service usually have a panel to sift the applications at a prison other than the one where the post is going to be, who set the parameters, and given the amount of applications they get for each post to get an interview meant that you had a good chance of getting the job if you were shortlisted.

The sift panel is usually the Governor who is nominally in overall charge of the hospital area, a security Principle Officer, the Head of Health Care, and for someone from the local PCT. You must have got something right in your application otherwise you wouldn't be there, they never ask people to interview just to make up the numbers.

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Ohh i am so confused now, so i think what you may be saying is that my application form is probably ok but i dont interview well maybe or didnt give the answers they required???.
I do hope they give me feedback as then i will no what i need to work on.
I do thank you all for the responses and i will keep you update.
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It could just be that they offered the job to someone who either had more experience to bring to the arena, or that they just interviewed better than you, so don't get disheartened.

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In my experience the prison service is usually prepared to interview as many as pass the initial sift, which you clearly did, however from then on in it becomes comparative, if every one was newly qualified then you may have stood a better chance but if you were up against experienced nurses it would have been a little harder for you, and if you where up against other experienced prison nurses then again they would stand a much better chance of being appointed than you, experience is what most healthcares are looking for becuase of the level of responsibility you will be expected to take on.

One of the issues you need to understand is that the nature of prison work is such that you really do need to have some nursing experience under you belt as a lot of the time you are expected to work alone making judgements and decisions across disciplines, often at night you will be the only qualified member of staff on duty, so experience becomes essential, some of the larger healthcares have enough staff to offer preceptorships and supervision to newly qualified staff, but these are few and far between.

Don't give up, consolidate your practice, and keep in touch with the jails closest to you that you would like to work in eventually.

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well sorry for not being around for a while but i started a new job as a Theatre Practitioner.
For many reasons i am not enjoying it at all and have asked a local prison for a application form for a position they have at the moment.


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