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Re: What terminology is offensive for people from other countries?
The country can not sustain the amount of foreigners pouring into the country, our population has already been swoollen to be the highest it has ever been, with the ever reducing amount of jobs, and the increase in the birth rate that we have at present, which is why there are not enough midwifes, and midwifery units to cope the country just can't sustain this growth in our numbers. Where are all the new dwelling places for this increasing population going to be built, and who is going to pay for all the people not working. What safe guards do we have to prevent criminals and terrorists entering the country. The idea of restricting immigration is based on sound principles, leaving the borders open to any freeloading foreigner who want s to use our over stressed NHS and our overstretched Social services, makes no sense whatsoever.
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21/Mar/08, 13:55
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YUK Uber what on earth makes you paint immigrants as "freeloading foreigners"? Sorry but that terminology alone is incredibly offensive.
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21/Mar/08, 13:58
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the ones that do don't assist us in reducing the number of unemployed, or aid us in ensuring that our needy are properly cared for.
Then why would our health, social services and education systems fall apart without the input of foreigners?
And when foreigners work in the UK, they pay tax into your system - unless they're being exploited for cheap labour like the Lincolnshire potato pickers, by law breaking, English bosses.
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21/Mar/08, 14:46
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There is a problem with immigration to this country. Some communities have changed beyond all recognition in a few short years. This leads to a disconnect between people, ghettoisation, self-isolation and the kinds of identity politics that have proved so terribly divisive and destructive over recent years.
However, there is also a need for immigrant workers. Without them, the NHS and social care services would collapse.
Having said THAT, here in London at least, some health care and social services are virtually all-Nigerian enclaves, which is not good for those workers nor for the people they are working with.
I think the current government's points-based system is entirely reasonable and feasible. Anything else would risk being unnecessarily draconian and would, ultimately, be cutting off our noses to spite our faces. But there also needs to be a determined effort to increase the (hate the word but it'll do) diversity of employees in certain health and social care settings by encouraging people from the LOCAL community to apply for those jobs.
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I agree SImpson and think there is a need for development of local communities and a recognition of the problems white British people have in certain areas such as Tower Hamlets or Blackburn. Some of these people need to be given their voice back.
The problem is that if sensible people dont do it it is left to the right wing minority who then preach a mantra of racial hatred.
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21/Mar/08, 18:25
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Sensible immigration control is not preaching the mantra of hatred, and to attempt to say it is right wingers is a ridiculous ideation, or do you consider only right wingers are capabale of understanding the harm that this mass immigration is causing the country.
It should be remembered that currently there is an attrition rate of 10,000 new doctors every year in this country, at a cost, to the taxpayers, of £250,000 per doctor, because they are unable to obtain the training places neccessary to become consultants or G.P.'s, meanwhile our NHS is being inundated with foreign Doctors. I can't get the figures for Nursing, the nmc seem to be reticent in providing them.
The Government claims regarding the fall in unemployment are not due to a reduction in the true number of unemployed, but due to the alterations in which the numbers are reported.
I'm not a luddite, I don't want to wreck the machines that have cost jobs due to the changes in technology, but I can't see the value of importing foreign workers when the British Nationals could be filling them.
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24/Mar/08, 11:32
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Re: What terminology is offensive for people from other countries?
I will not argue with you on this when I consider your ideas bankrupt, right wing and based on factual information gleaned from a party of idiots.
There is not mass immigration in this country in any case.
Ideation is a useful term in medical dictionaries and philosophy, belief or idea is a better one in this context.
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