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supraman
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Did we do our scouting?
Steve hammond
Call me stubborn, but I'm not ready to give up on this personal favorite just yet. Drafted with an eye towards making him a reliever eventually, he performed so well in 2006 between High A Brevard and AA Huntsville that the team decided to keep him in the rotation for the foreseeable future. Things didn't go well in 2007 for Hammond in AA, a change largely driven by a 2.5 hits per 9 inning increase and a resulting .26 jump in WHIP. His K rate only declined slightly and his walks actually went down, which got me to thinking about a potential move to the pen. Sure enough, his K rate steadily declines as each inning passes all the way through the 5th, which would indicate some trouble holding his stuff deep into games. He did show trouble with walks in the first inning, which would be a problem were he to move into short relief. Still, I would like to see how he reacts to a move to the pen before writing him off as a prospect. If last years struggles as a starter persist into this season, I would expect that move sooner rather than later.
Darren Ford
Draft and follow taken in the 18th round of the 2004 draft out of junior college Often mentioned as one of the fastest players in the minors, it will be the development of Ford's other skills that will ultimately determine how far he goes as a baseball player. After opening the year with a second go round in the Sally league at West Virginia and playing very well, he was promoted to High-A Brevard and posted markedly lower numbers. His batting line of (.335/.398/.504/.902) at West Virginia dropped to (.231/.317/.308/.625) in the more pitcher friendly Florida State League. Some of that drop off is to be expected, but the fact that his West Virginia numbers were driven by an insanely high .425 BABIP doesn't bode well for those type of numbers being something you can expect out of him on a regular basis. Extremely high BABIP numbers usually indicate unsustainable levels of performance. Ford continues to strike out too much (almost 25% of his AB's), though his walk rate (10%) is solid enough not to be a huge problem. His 67 of 83 successful stolen base attempts (81%) is as good as you can ask for, and he actually got better after moving up to High A. Defensively, he uses his great speed to his advantage in center field, where he is considered above average. Given his struggles at High A, he will probably open the year there.
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Re: Did we do our scouting?
We basically traded RayRay for Pat Misch and Rajai Davis. That's not a horrid deal.
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7/20/2008, 7:48 pm
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Hammond may be somewhat comparable to Misch, but Ford is to Rajai as Juan Encarnacion is to Barry Bonds.
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7/20/2008, 8:27 pm
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Re: Did we do our scouting?
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supraman wrote:
Steve hammond
Call me stubborn, but I'm not ready to give up on this personal favorite just yet. Drafted with an eye towards making him a reliever eventually, he performed so well in 2006 between High A Brevard and AA Huntsville that the team decided to keep him in the rotation for the foreseeable future. Things didn't go well in 2007 for Hammond in AA, a change largely driven by a 2.5 hits per 9 inning increase and a resulting .26 jump in WHIP. His K rate only declined slightly and his walks actually went down, which got me to thinking about a potential move to the pen. Sure enough, his K rate steadily declines as each inning passes all the way through the 5th, which would indicate some trouble holding his stuff deep into games. He did show trouble with walks in the first inning, which would be a problem were he to move into short relief. Still, I would like to see how he reacts to a move to the pen before writing him off as a prospect. If last years struggles as a starter persist into this season, I would expect that move sooner rather than later.
Darren Ford
Draft and follow taken in the 18th round of the 2004 draft out of junior college Often mentioned as one of the fastest players in the minors, it will be the development of Ford's other skills that will ultimately determine how far he goes as a baseball player. After opening the year with a second go round in the Sally league at West Virginia and playing very well, he was promoted to High-A Brevard and posted markedly lower numbers. His batting line of (.335/.398/.504/.902) at West Virginia dropped to (.231/.317/.308/.625) in the more pitcher friendly Florida State League. Some of that drop off is to be expected, but the fact that his West Virginia numbers were driven by an insanely high .425 BABIP doesn't bode well for those type of numbers being something you can expect out of him on a regular basis. Extremely high BABIP numbers usually indicate unsustainable levels of performance. Ford continues to strike out too much (almost 25% of his AB's), though his walk rate (10%) is solid enough not to be a huge problem. His 67 of 83 successful stolen base attempts (81%) is as good as you can ask for, and he actually got better after moving up to High A. Defensively, he uses his great speed to his advantage in center field, where he is considered above average. Given his struggles at High A, he will probably open the year there.
We had to give Velez, and others a look to see where we stand for 2009. Trading Ray was the only way to accomplish this ... plus, he's a FA after this season, so if we can a few guys to see how they progress in the minors - great.
Don't look for Ford or Hammonds to make or break this team - because they're not going to.
On a side note, Hammonds did play with Bowker at Long Beach State. I saw him pitch a few times in relief for the Dirtbags, and never thought he would make it to the Bigs, let alone make it to AAA.
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7/20/2008, 8:45 pm
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"Oh you flatter me Malcontent
yea those 2 paragraphares are suppose to b in quotes but ohwell forgot "
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how hard did you have to work, to mistake monkey for malcontent?
he isn't even on this thread!
By the way- don't piss monkey off. She WILL hunt you down and kick your ass.
I'm serious. I once saw her take out 4 Dodger fans in under 3 minutes. Two of them were men too..
It was not pretty, so mind your manners stuporman, or else.
PS- WTF is a "paragraphares" ?
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7/20/2008, 10:31 pm
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hmm.. only valuable for the open roster spot. NOT a salary dump when his contract only has a few months left on it.
And in any case, the players competing for his job - let's be honest - aren't half the player Durham is, excepting last season.
Still, a good deal for both teams. Ray isn't helping anyone by being here in SF.
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7/20/2008, 11:21 pm
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