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Season 5 - Episode 2 - Good God, Y'all
Castiel tells Sam and Dean that he is going to search for God, who will be able to defeat Lucifer. Bobby's old hunter friend, Rufus, is panicked about demons attacking his town, and begs Bobby for help. Sam and Dean arrive at the town and realize there is a spell over the townspeople, making them hallucinate that they are demons and causing them to kill one another.
Great episode! In fact, I think I liked it better then the first one. It was more like good old Supernatural, fighting the bad guys.
That said Kripke continued to surprise us with his endings. Dean obviously doesn't trust Sam anymore and in this episode he was very clear that he doesn't want Sam around either. Freaking out while they hunted, afraid that Sam would go dark side. Sam knows it too which is why at the end he walked away. Man the ending was a killer. I hate it when the brothers fight. 
Still as I said, it was a great episode and I loved to see Ellen back. Hopefully it won't just be a one episode thing.
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9/18/2009, 8:50 am
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Re: Season 5 - Episode 2 - Good God, Y'all
Not the best quality but it's the best I can find.
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9/18/2009, 9:02 am
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Re: Season 5 - Episode 2 - Good God, Y'all
Nice stills, bec...looks like they finally got new jeans this season...about damn time!
I swear I'm going to kill Kripke...he keeps lulling us into this false sense of everything seeming ok, then sticks the knife in and rips out our hearts in the last five minutes. Little ****!  
That said, it was a great roller coaster ride. I absolutely LOVED the beginning scene when Cas showed up and announced he was looking for God. I was laughing out loud throughout that one...there were some GREAT lines in there. Looks like Cas is mad as hell and not going to take it anymore...good for him! I do hope Bobby can somehow be helped though...poor guy does not deserve this.
As for the guys...I think both Dean and Sam have yet to come to terms with their own inner "demons" and that's preventing them from realizing that they need to work together.
You can see every time Dean is doubting Sam it's weak...it's like he can't really buy his own doubts (plus he's still carrying around his own guilt for what he did in hell, so he can't foist it all on Sam and he knows it). And you could see in the beginning with Cas that Dean still doesn't believe in God, which is keeping him from seeing the bigger picture.
Sam, in the meantime, is trying to deal with his dark side but I think he's beating up on himself about that WAY too much.
Hell, they're both beating up on themselves...have been since Season One. And personally, I don't think they'll be able to defeat Lucifer until they stop beating up on themselves and join forces again. At least, I'm hoping that's what Kripke has in store too. If he doesn't bring my boys back together I'M going to be the one doing the hunting...and he won't like it!
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9/18/2009, 10:31 am
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Forgot to add:
LOVED "War" showing up in the red Mustang...that was really cool and VERY clever!
And I was interested to hear Dean bring up my own biggest question in the discussion about God with Cas...where the hell is he? Why hasn't he gotten involved up to now?
And btw...I think the fact that God pulled both Dean AND Sam onto the plane in the first episode is a pretty good indicator that he has bigger things in mind for BOTH of them...which is why Sam really needs to stop beating himself up. He is NOT a terrible, evil monster...he and Dean both need to come to grips with that one.
They really both need to forgive themselves...then they can get around to patching things up with each other.
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9/18/2009, 11:15 am
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I thought WAR and the Mustang was a riot! And I loved seeing Ellen again. Jo eh, I can live without her. Hopefully Ellen will be in another one but I doubt it.
Another interesting twist was Dean's necklace. I mean Sam originally meant to give it to his Dad but was mad and gave it to Dean. Dean letting Cas take it sort of annoyed me. He never took it off cause it was from Sam, but for Cas he does.
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9/18/2009, 12:07 pm
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Yeah, the part with the necklace really ripped me up...I can't believe he did that! But I'm thinking it's all part of Dean's whole dealing with the concept of having faith...in his own way he's trying to.
I was also shocked at the end when he offered Sam the Impala. What the hell was up with that?! Dean being willing to give up his baby? I mean, even if it is to Sam, that I just don't get.
Agreed on Ellen...I thought they kind of marginalized her and really marginalized Jo. I think the writers are having a hard time balancing the ordinary relationship type stuff with the whole Apocalypse scenario...kind of tough to do and make it all seem believable. I hope Ellen comes back too. I actually loved when she slapped Dean...I thought YES...just like Bobby, she's not afraid to slap some sense into him when he needs it.
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9/18/2009, 12:52 pm
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Yeah, the cell phone had me cracking up. And good point on Bobby not being whole...in their own ways, neither are Sam or Dean, so maybe Bobby is reflecting that and supposed to bring them up short...who knows? I still wish he'd get healed somehow.
And yeah, I guess the ending wasn't entirely out of left field, I just hate it when the guys are separated, it just doesn't feel right for me. I'm hoping somehow they manage to work through this and get back together.
And as for Sam's "junkie" thing...yeah, Dean's struggling with it, but I also really think he hates himself for struggling with it...like he thinks he should be able to get past it...he just seems really torn up to me. And obviously, so is Sam. They both need to find a way past it.
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9/18/2009, 3:18 pm
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Bobby has always been there for the boys, that's why I love his character. To me Dean isn't struggling all that much. He's mad and he's sulking. Sam lied to him and took a demon's side over his. I totally understand his emotions at Sam but I'm not going to sugar coat it as poor little Dean and all his troubles. He gave away the necklace that Sam gave him, without even blinking and then he just let Sam leave, when you knew Sam wanted him to talk him out of it. As for the Impala, I think he offered it cause he gave it to Sam when he died. I know what Dean is going through, I just think Kripke cuts him way too much slack.
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9/18/2009, 6:35 pm
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Moonie, I didn't mean to sound like I meant you. Like I've said, opinions are what make it fun. 
I cut Dean some slack, it's just getting old cause ever since he made the contract to save Sam it's been like "Whoa is me, poor Dean."
I think we should just kick the crap out of both of them.
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9/19/2009, 12:12 pm
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I'm thinking you meant me, but yeah...having our own opinions is what makes it fun.
Believe it or not, I'm not cutting Dean slack, I'm just trying to see things from both perspectives. Like it or not, Dean is going through his own struggles...he's the unbeliever and now he's being forced to trust in the angels and God, the very things he doesn't believe in. You can't tell me that comes easy.
And he LOVES Sam...being angry at him can't be sitting well with him. I'm just saying I don't think Dean is being the big, bad nasty brother either...it's not that cut and dried. He didn't give up the necklace without a thought...his immediate reaction when Cas asked for it was to GROWL "no" and even when he did finally give in, he made Cas swear not to lose it. That was NOT easy for him.
The Impala part I don't really get.
If Dean were really being nasty, he would've kicked Sam to the curb right away as soon as he said "I don't trust you", but he didn't do that...I think that's because underneath it all he still cares. At least I'd like to think he does.
And it was SAM'S choice to leave at the end...again, Dean wasn't throwing him out. HE said he didn't feel safe hunting and Dean agreed. I was surprised that Dean agreed so readily, I wanted him to argue against it, but that's where the hurt comes in.
Nobody is cutting Dean any slack...I don't think Dean is cutting HIMSELF any slack. He's been beating up on himself since day one. That's all I'm saying.
I want them BOTH to get through this and get back together...I'm still hoping they will...but they are both struggling at this point and apparently have a ways to go.
I don't feel sorry for Dean...I feel sorry for both of them...I think they both don't see the good in themselves, or don't value it enough.
When all is said and done, though, I agree that they need to have their heads knocked together. Hell I've been wanting to do that since Season 2. That's why I love it when Bobby and Ellen have tried to slap some sense into them...that's what they need!
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True, but apparently the fan base doesn't take too kindly to the women guest stars so it's kind of hard for them to do. At least that's the impression I've gotten from Kripke's interviews and comments.
It was good to see Ellen and Jo back in this episode. I get the feeling the writers are kind of struggling with exactly how to depict the whole Apocalypse...I imagine it can't be easy to do...but so far they've done a good job with it.
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10/12/2009, 9:07 am
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I think a part of it is they don't want Sam or Dean involved in a relationship. It would kind of throw a monkey wrench into things. Just like the Roadhouse, Kripke hated that they had to alway go back there. I think he likes the idea of Sam and Dean not having any ties to anything but Bobby, the Impala and each other.
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10/12/2009, 10:20 am
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True...and it really does work better that way. Any time they've tried to throw something in...even Dad...it just never seemed to work. Bobby's the only constant that ever really works.
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10/12/2009, 10:27 am
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Very true. Of course, Dad was so focused on keeping them safe that he couldn't really deal with the rest of it.
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10/13/2009, 12:38 pm
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