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TBA Bylaws Discussion

I read over the bylaws this morning and had a few questions. I figured i would start a thread that talks mainly about the bylaws.

My questions are:

Article II- Members
10. Voting of Members- What about voting by e-mail? Should that be included?
14. The last paragraph in this section looks as if its addresses the 18th century. Telegram, telex, cablegram etc..Should this refer to more recent forms of communication?

Article III- Directors
12. Compensation- I think Directors should receive some sort of compensation or at least reimbursement of expenses so long as funds are available. I don't think anyone expects you guys to drive across Texas to fight for our rights or attend mandatory meetings at your own expense.

Article IV- Officers
5. President- What does ex-officio mean?

If there is already a place to discuss these bylaws then I'm sorry about spreading things out.

9/27/2009, 11:13 am

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One more question about Artile II, Section 11- Quorum of Members.

It talks about 1/10 the vote entitled to be cast constitute a quorum. Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like a membership of 260 people only need 26 to attend in order to make changes or hold elections. Does this sound a little low to anyone else or am I not reading this right?

9/27/2009, 11:26 am

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re: Quorum of members - You read it right. As a club spread across a large area, you almost have to do this. It is almost impossible to get a true quorum of members (generally 51%) to attend a meeting.

Several years ago, I belonged to a club with about 200 members. The by laws stated that a quorum of 51% of the membership was required to vote on any resolution and a majority (51%) of the quorum would constitute an affirmative vote. We never had more than about 25 members attend a meeting so, for 2 years the club was unable to conduct business.

The section that concerns me is Art 3, Sec 11 - Quorum of directors.

11. QUORUM AND VOTING OF DIRECTORS
A quorum for the transaction of business by the Board of Directors shall be a majority of the number of directors fixed by these Bylaws. Directors present by proxy may not be counted toward a quorum. The act of the majority of the directors present in person or by proxy at a meeting at which a quorum is present shall be the act of the Board of Directors, unless the act of a greater number is required by law or the Certificate of Formation.

As I read it this says that if 3 of the 5 members are present they can enact business and or legislation and a simple majority will constitute an affirmative vote. Therefore, 2 directors can enact rules and regulations in the name of the board?

With such a small board (5 members) I would like to see a "super majority" of 4 affirmative votes to pass a resolution. If there is such a split that a resolution can not get 4 votes, it should be studied more before passage any way.

9/27/2009, 1:24 pm

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Article IV- Officers
5. President- What does ex-officio mean?
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Ex-offigio basically means "by right of office"..... ie. the president is a member of all standing committees, BECAUSE he is the president....kinda like a "perk"

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Any action by the board this week?

How are the by laws looking now?

10/3/2009, 9:46 pm

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Just giving everyone time to comment and make suggestions. WB

10/3/2009, 11:04 pm

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I also have to concur with bowfisher78133 on the super majority of directors. If it can't be agreed upon by at least 4 directors, it needs to go back to the table for discussion. I think in the long run this would serve the association best for the future generations.
Next, I really like the quorum of members much better than exclusively a quorum of directors to vote on all decisions. I'd rather see that and the ones that want to participate and have a voice, have the ability to do just that instead of no say at all. So, I surely won't complain on that matter at all. I welcome that awesome revision of the original bylaws.

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Every thing should be deciaded by the members,and any changes should be voted on by the members,online or mail ballits,thats why they pay their money to be part of,and beable to be part of the decisions,that make the TBA,We have enough of OBAMA setting the rules,we dont nead that here,put all up for the members to decide,

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10/7/2009, 6:11 am

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Every thing should be deciaded by the members,and any changes should be voted on by the members,online or mail ballits,thats why they pay their money to be part of,and beable to be part of the decisions,that make the TBA,We have enough of OBAMA setting the rules,we dont nead that here,put all up for the members to decide,

Might get a little slow getting anything done since most of the membership hasn't even commented on this thread. If you don't want the directors to make any decisions, why are we here? I am sure the membership will want to vote on major issues but don't think they are going to want to vote on whether the TBA spends 44 cents on a stamp for example. Since only 6 members have commented on the bylaws on this thread do you think you can get at least 26 members to vote on whether we can mail a letter? We are begging for member input and you compare us to Obama? I don't see any resemblance.

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10/7/2009, 7:23 am

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You can spend 44 cents Walter,LOL,i am speaking about other things,Tournaments,State Shoots and things,other that things that in volve the members,just do it,