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Mark Haythorne
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This is the blended colour version of my lilleshall photo that Martin suggested I post here. Nothing else done to it at all.

I seem to be flogging a dead horse trying to get a decent conversion out of it, I would be very kind if anyone wants to show me if

a) They can get a conversion out of it.
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b) Tell me I should just go back when conditions are more suitable.

If a) how or b) why. emoticon

For some reason flickr has stripped out the colorspace and it looks a bit blurry as well.

Here it is

Thanks in advanced.
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Hi

Just my interpretation, happy to post my workflow if you like it.

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I like what you've done with the clouds top LHS near the needle Bill.
I tried something but it didnt quite work - nevermind - thi is the best I can manageImage
 

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Re: A Polished t**d ?

Looks good to me, a far more natural version than mine but then "I don't do ....." well you know the rest emoticon

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Agree re Bill's LHS the rest is even too dark for me and normally I do dark, except for the path, draws you in. emoticon

Prefer my monument processing though... What I have noticed (after seeing these) though is that the way I've straightened it has created two sets of clouds that looked cloned. Better idea here

Yours seems to have got more detail out of the trees and foreground than mine Simon.

Hmmm food for thought on both of them, cheers.
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Yours seems to have got more detail out of the trees and foreground than mine Simon.
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and again mit der subtle differences ( because things always look different to what you expected online)

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What I did: the first thing I did was try a trick from Dan marguilis book, on the stone needle ,it looked too dark to me , it was the one thing that irketh'd me thumwhat

While still in the colour mode I converted to LAB and copied the layer and bumped up the A and B channels to bring out the colour detail in the stone. I put this under the main layer and painted ona mask to reveal the needle.

Having done that I though i'd try it with the foreground and as I liked the effect got a bit carried away and applied it also to the highlighted areas in the disatnce too

theI converted it back to RGB only to find that when altering it to B+W via either the B+W adjustment or channel mixer all my hard earned effort was lost!

Grrr. So I tried saving as TIFF and that didnt seem to work either so I opened te TIFF in LR desaturated HSL , used the luminace sliders to get wee I roughly wanted then used gradients and the adjustment brush to finish orf.

I.e. my workflow is all over the place ! emoticon

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What I did: the first thing I did was try a trick from Dan marguilis book, on the stone needle ,it looked too dark to me , it was the one thing that irketh'd me thumwhat

While still in the colour mode I converted to LAB and copied the layer and bumped up the A and B channels to bring out the colour detail in the stone.


OK I've found out how to get it in LAB mode, but then I've no idea what you've done next, could you explain it for a duffer.

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Bill what was your technique for straightening and the sky?

Cheers

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From this book

In the curves dialogue yo select first the A channle then the B channel and do the same thing to each. I have just shown it here for the A channel
See you can set different amounts? The amounts have to be pulled in the same top and bottom and for both channels.The amount you set ifs up to you depending on the effect you want.

What it does: originally designed to get colour out of a flat colourless scene it ups the colour evenly without sqewing the saturation bigtime like the saturation sliders doif you set the curves settings to exactly the same for the A and B channels. The more you pull the curves in the stronger the effect

Its more subtle and effective and gives you more control than the hue/saturation sliders. I started by thinking the needle looked odd and that i wanted more brightness and texture out of it and remembering this technique thought it miht be worth trying here before a B+W conversion

Not the ideal use and subsequent processing didnt go according to plan but hey ho there ye go
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Stronger effect:

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While still in the colour mode I converted to LAB and copied the layer and bumped up the A and B channels to bring out the colour detail in the stone. I put this under the main layer and painted ona mask to reveal the needle.
 

An interesting idea and new to me, I'll look at that, thanks.

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