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Now hear me out..
A good friend of mine got his 2nd DWI, leaving my house, a week ago. He blew around a .08. Hasn't been officially charged, pending the piss test.
Anyways, I got i nto a discussion with a mutual friend, and he commented how his wife took a hard-line approach, saying the kid deserved it, wherupon I, suicidally, took the kid's side and tried to rationalize things. I accused his wife of being close-minded, wherupon he took offense. End of argument.
It really sticks me, however, that she (being a new mother), feels a sense of morality, about a single 23 year-old male, who works his ass off, pays his taxes, and imposes upon society none, save the danger he poses when he drinks a couple of pops and gets behind the wheel, innocently driving home without incident.
One time, though, he turns to get a couple of cheeseburgers, and the cops light him up, and she's there to browbeat.
What makes it so much worse to drive home hovering around "legally drunk" than having a baby that ****s in 4-6 diapers a day, that are thrown into the trash and landfilled. What harms society more? His "carbon-footprint" is a **** ton less than hers (theirs). Yet they seem to hold the cards about what's allowed and disallowed. They're ****ing up the world, more, with their sense of right and wrong, more than A Dude that just wants to knock a few back and stay up past midnight.
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Re: Now hear me out..
**** WHY CANT I FIGURE OUT EMBEDDING??????
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11/4/2009, 4:56
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Re: Now hear me out..
The diapers are half his, so they split that landfill eco-irresponsibility factor; but I get your point.
They need to make the limit higher so when they get ya you've got no reasonable excuse for blowing a .13. I was in a bar once that had a breathilizer. I was jacked on rum and coke and on the verge of a vomit scene out of Stand By Me. I blew a .11 which was under the .12 limit at the time. .08 used to be DUI which was a lesser offense. Now anything that or over is Driving WHILE intoxicated.
I've considered buying a portable tester just to get an idea... not that I really need it. Just for personal info and research.
Anyway, on the point about your buddy, he has a responsibility to his family, man. A couple DUI's can **** up the family economy and in that sense the wife has the right to *****. But you'd like to hope she'd have had a little tact and not piled on right on the heels of the debacle of being arrested etc. Cabs are cheaper than lawyers...
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In this world, you pays your money and you takes your chances. If I get caught DUI, I lose my job. That has a ripple effect, of course. Fair? probably not but them what's in charge makes the rules. Drunk driving is the hot ticket these days.
The younger generation - the Greenies, 26-35, they got the power now. And, since this is the Nanny State and this is the age of political correctness and the complete idolization/iconization of the American Child, things are not going to get better.
**** it. I rarely drink and drive anymore and nowhere near the way I used to. But I'll also tell you this - they aren't looking to light up the 62 year old. they're looking for you younger dudes, out late and doing a little weaving. Sometimes around here coppers will sit near a bar parking lot and wait until the place closes. Easy pickings.
Just my view from the top of the CourtHouse.
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11/4/2009, 16:21
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Re: Now hear me out..
also my view from the top of the CourtHouse (2d floor).
...When it is dark I'm home....If we go out to dinner ... One beer....or Sage drives...Scuffman is correct...CUIDADO!!!!
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The guy that got the DUI isn't married to the moral crusader. The moral crusader is married to a dude that DUI and I are friends with. Like I said, it was a suicide mission to argue on the side of a DUI, but he's my friend and I'd proudly stand up for him. I just thought she was plenty judgemental atop her suburban perch, with her perfect sanitary life.
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Ohhhh. Well, then I have something different to say too, because my response was from the mistaken perspective that the DUI guy and the chick were married. Since it's more like my wife commenting on Scuff or one of you guys, I feel a little differently.
She is not being overly judgmental, she's just being an asshole. Chiming in on discussions about the timeliness of bills being paid, a husband contributing to the upkeep and upbringing of kids, taking the trash out, cleaning up dog****, and straightening the dvd's around the tv are all within the wife's realm to comment on--- among other things too.
It sounds like this was a discussion between you, a friend, and his SLF about a guy (the DUI guy) who wasn't present at the argument you were having, yes? In that case, big deal, she disagreed with you. What's ****ty is your friend shutting it down because you called her closed-minded on something. Some solidarity would have been nice or at least the opportunity to hear you out.
Dude, we are living in a time of unprecedented domination by those with an axe wound. No doubt. It all started back in 1980 when I was 10 and my mother started crying because she felt my dad and I didn't take her feelings and POV seriously.  We didn't. But we nevertheless gushed over her and encouraged her to voice her opinion. To the dismay and detriment of all men, my mother got on the Batphone and spread the word to all womendom that she was now encouraged by her male family members to voice her opinions after crying about her feelings. The cat was outta the bag, dudes. The genie out of the bottle. I apologize. We've been trying to get the genie back in for 30 years with little luck. We've gotten her crying a few times, but never quite to the point of her returning to her previous docile state. (sigh)
Madd is like the ****ing dry community that got prohibition enacted. What they don't like to have publicized is that the drunks who kill in car accidents are FAR over the limit. A .08 is more likely to face legal trouble from a pullover by a cop than from an accident, much less a fatal one. But you never got the opportunity to say that 'cause your bud shut you down. Wives need to hear that kind of stuff before getting so soccer-mommish-suburbanite on innocent people's (you) ass. 
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That reminds me of a phone call I got last year.
MADD called me for a donation. I told her flat out that I do not agree with MADD's underlying political views.
It was clear that the girl had no clue what I was talking about. She asked me what do you mean?
If the only thing that MADD was concerned with was stopping drunk driving by creating awareness and funding things of that nature I would give you money. But they are going way beyond that and I don't agree with what they are doing.
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I thought it was the guys wife, too. So here's my altered opinion. 1. **** her. She's an opinionated *****, but aren't we all? Her position is hers to have but she should have kept it to herself; she ****ed up a friendship. 2. You cannot expect her husband, your friend, to side with you against her. She's his wife. He might call her a **** later but he has to stand up for her and shut it down as he did. If you and Weed and I were talking about AMC getting pinched, and my wife was there and opened her yap and said somethinbg like, "Well, he deserves whatever happens to him. He's a killer drunbk driver just waiting to have an accident, blah, blah, blah," and you tell her to shut the **** up, Donny, I am bounden to stand up for her. I might jack her mouthy ass up when I get home but you can't do it.
Having said all that, **** her. Make it up with your bud, and forget it. Just remember that she's the kind who will insert their opinion whenever they feel they want to. Must be an American Yuppie ***** or a DINK. Definitely a democrat.
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Re: Now hear me out..
There is no way any of you can admit that he(DUIguy) was not in the wrong, try as you may. That being said it doesn't mean that it doesn't suck. And it doesn't give your friends wife the right to be a flaming twat. And I am sure you were trying to be sympathetic. But it is a law and there are not many ways around it.
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