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The Pagan Porch  Hot Topics   Pharmacists and Plan B Support Search RSS runboard.com       Sign up (learn about it) | Sign in (lost password?) Page:  1  2  muladzh Registered user Global user (premium) Registered: 10-2008 Posts: 631 Reply | Quote Re: Pharmacists and Plan B The plan-b pill is a convenience pill - rape victims who don't report the rape would probably use it, but reported rapes get help from the hospital they are examined at. --- 7/18/2009, 3:03 am   de Corbin Registered user Global user Registered: 09-2008 Posts: 568 Reply | Quote Re: Pharmacists and Plan B I'm afraid I'm with Fenyx on this one - forcing a moral violation on one person is equal to forcing a moral violation on another. In hospitals it's a different story because they have a specific mission to the public to provide the best medical care possible. They receive tax breaks and sometimes funding for that, so the government gets to call the shots. In a free enterprise system, if one drugstore refuses to provide a legal medication which is in demand, it creates a business opportunity for another - the "one pharmacy problem" is only temporary. Customers who can get what they need at pharmacy A will take all their business there, and pharmacy B, which won't provide for their needs, will loose business. --- 7/19/2009, 4:38 pm Send Email to de Corbin   Send PM to de Corbin Saijen SilverWolf Head Administrator Global user Registered: 10-2004 Location: Upper North East Tennessee Posts: 3730 Reply | Quote Re: Pharmacists and Plan B I think, maybe a way to look at the Plan B pill is like this. It is nothing more than a type of condom. Sometimes a condom can fail...OOPS....so, the next morning, you go to the pharmacy, grab a "condom" called Plan B and you're OK. It does not abort anything, it prevents anything from happening. It can NOT abort an existing pregnancy, regardless of how far along, be it a little or a lot. It simply changes how a woman's cycle runs for a short period to keep her from becoming pregnant. Now, to me, this pharmacist...using the above example, would he deny a woman any kind of birth control? A pill, a condom, an IUD (Intrauterine Device...like Mirena), a diaphram, the foam???? ALL of those are nothing more...or less...than the Plan B pill....and, anyone under the age of 18 HAS TO HAVE A PRESCRIPTION for it...otherwise, they don't get it at all. I have to wonder what the pharmacist's denomination is, and if he's Catholic, if he refuses to fill prescriptions for birth control or sell condoms to people. I have to somewhat disagree with Fenyx. The pharmacist (if you subscribe to the above statements) IS, to a point, forcing his belief's on the customer. Not totally, because he's not shoving it down her throat, but if she has no other options available to her, then she's up the creek. Look at this possible scenario. Ok...girl and guy have protected sex, but there is still the possibility of a pregnancy. If she gets pregnant, it could possibly end her life, or the baby's life, or both. She would prefer to stop things before a pregnancy can even happen by using the Plan B pill, but the pharmacist refuses her. She finds out she's preggo....she dies. Now, you say, well, it's not often someone gets preggo if protected...granted, that's true, but my ex SiL got pregant while using a condom, the foam AND the pill...all at the same time, so it CAN happen. So..what now???? I think every drug store needs at least 2 pharmacists anyway, just for this type of thing. If one wants to be a horse's behind, the other one can at least pick up the slack. --- Blessed Be, ~*~ Saijen ~*~ ~~*~~ .~~*~~ 7/19/2009, 6:22 pm Send Email to Saijen SilverWolf   Send PM to Saijen SilverWolf Yahoo TexasMadness Administrator Global user (premium) Registered: 03-2007 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2518 Reply | Quote Re: Pharmacists and Plan B Alright, I've done some thinking. I still *think* that pharmacists should dispense the pill but I do see that it is pushing my views on them in a way to makes them violate one of their tenants. That's not good. The chances of a person being unable to get the pill from somewhere within the window of time are slim. So it's an inconvenience rather than "forcing" someone to become pregnant when they are really trying to prevent it. So as long as pharmacies are independently own entities, then it's up that company to decide what to carry. I don't like the idea of a pharmacy carrying it but one particular pharmacist refusing, but that's up to the company owner to deal with. And I see the point that it shouldn't be legislated. I still don't like it. 7/20/2009, 4:30 pm Send Email to TexasMadness   Send PM to TexasMadness TexasMadness Administrator Global user (premium) Registered: 03-2007 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2518 Reply | Quote Re: Pharmacists and Plan B Okey dokey, came across another aspect of the argument. The laws in many places require hospitals to make Plan B available to rape victims. However, Catholic hospitals (of which 17% are in the US...the only hospitals within 30 miles of my house are Catholic) are opposing this. Does this fall into the "it's their business so they can refuse" argument? Or should hospitals be required to make Plan B available? 7/21/2009, 10:23 pm Send Email to TexasMadness   Send PM to TexasMadness muladzh Registered user Global user (premium) Registered: 10-2008 Posts: 631 Reply | Quote Re: Pharmacists and Plan B Nice can of worms there.... if the hospital is state or county government run, or funded, then they should not have the choice to refuse a treatment, particularly for rape victims... BUT, if the hospital is privately owned and run by a commercial concern (as opposed to a state funded educational concern, as so many hospitals are) then that hospital would be permitted to carry only prescription medications approved by the medical board of the hospital. --- 7/22/2009, 2:16 am   Add a reply Page:  1  2  Link to us   -  Blogs   -  Hall of Honour   -  Chat You are not logged in (login)      Board's time is: 11/29/2009, 7:08 pm