sutistoy
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On teaching...
I noted that Mr Brian mentioned how teens in class often are glib towards the art classes. I can see why, in some cases, simply based on the way art has been, er, changed so much in modern times. All the same, I wonder if the information can use freshining. I know it is important to see the well respected paintings and the like, but as the one text I had stated, without using the creative side of one's mind, students really are getting an incomplete education. I know firsthand how hard it is to spark the surly into interest....I tried forever to get my oldest interested in different creative facets but he soundly ignored most of it because he didn't have immediate success with it. Neither did I, I told him... I started like every other kid, scribbling and scrawling, and I am still learning now. I fear that somewhere, because his dad let him play video games so very much, and still does, that he lost his capacity for using imagination...you don't have to put that to work much when someone has already created a world and characters in it for you, and a set of scenarios and actions to choose from. It's like a lazy version of a story, and not a good one either. I guess the kids are saturated with this junk now.
I was just curious a little about the sorts of things that get taught in classes in a traditional classroom now, since it has been a long time since I last attended one. My relatives are elbowing me towards teaching though that is not my current goal ( they think that I'd get the job based on my past attendance at the school... I know better.... they expect serious credentials, plus you get saddled with church duty and weekend duty if you live on campus).
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4/1/2009, 7:32 pm
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Re: On teaching...
Well, one of the most annoying issues I have with some students is that, like you say, if they don't have immedidate success, they get an "I can't do art" attitude. I get kids who will put three minutes into creating a design, then say "it's the best I can do." I put a couple of hours into working out a design, then say "Next time, I'll do it better..."
It's really annoying - as if art is something that comes easily. I don't know about anybody else, but I have to work hard at it, and that's something - that art is hard work - a lot of kids don't get.
But I don't think it's only art - a lot of kids simply don't want to work had at things - art, math, English, history - the whole bit. I don't know why... do they think their life going to be so easy that they don't have to push themselves to be successful? If that's it, I suspect they will spend the next 50 years being disapointed...
That's also, I think, caused by the same thing that you point out - it's so much easier to a passive reciever of something than it is to be an active creator.
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4/8/2009, 7:15 am
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I've seen it in crafting and Crafting....
I like having forms taught... they are templates to hold to as you try your first creative steps. They are exercises to develop skills which make the creative work come out how you want.
Both need to be taught, but a lot of people seem to see the form and not see how much creative is taught at the same time.
Discipline is also one of the most important skills taught... and one more rarely accomplished.
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I know it. I have always been one to dream big, to see the way to the goal, and just not follow through!
I'm working on that. It is the biggest thing standing between me and what I want to do with my life.
Money can be found. Time can be made. I just have to do it. Not get caught up in whatever is on tv or running errands or veg out or whatever. Just do what I need to do. And that takes discipline. I can't just rely on habits or on social norms to push me into doing things like an hour of work a day.
And in the end, that is one-two tv shows... nothing I'll miss.
I need to not procrastinate. I need to not put off projects until the "right" moment (that really is just later.)
Discipline is tough.... but it is the only way to develop the skills and the resources needed to own myself and my time.
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