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The Creatives
Upon my first encounter with an open house for the school I would wind up doing online for ( rather than on campus), the fellow who gave his spiel about the school posed a curious term... rather than refer to those who would attend as students, artists, what have you, he referred to us as creatives. That seemed apt to me, but at the same time it made me wonder. Something I have always thought is that "Creatives" like me are often a breed of their own, meaning, to a degree, we are isolated by our abilities. Oh sure, what we do and make draws in a viewership, but we can't really share what the process, the act of creating, was like, how it felt. Heck, we are at odds trying to explain how we do it, other than the technical, mechanical information. I feel rather isolated myself, and I wonder if I will be able to put forth enough confidence when it comes time to apply for an art based job. I have an EXTREMELY hard time dealing with people, and gods help me if anyone approaches me. I get flustered, I get nervous, and I feel like I either haven't said enough, or haven't shut up soon enough. So I do wonder.... are we a different breed? Does ANYONE really understand us, or are we just the unicorns in the zoo?
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Re: The Creatives
He he... Yup...
Did you ever watch Edward Scissorhands? That's exactly what the movie was about - the artist whose very talents make him (or her) an alien in the world.
It's weird. I'm the oddball, but when I look at people going about their bland, uninteresting lives, earning money, then spending it on the wide screen TVs that seem to mean so much to them, I have to wonder...
Do they know how empty their world is?
We get this:
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To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.
William Blake, Poet, Artist, Mystic
And they get 360 channels of junk.
Who really got the raw deal?
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well, there its hard to say. For those who are satisfied with what they have and can get, I suppose there is a level of comfort that is stabilizing. It is true, though , that a vast majority miss out on activating a part of their brains that can do and experience wonderful states. do they pay any more for their state of contentment than we do? DOn't we get caught up in the creative process to the point of distraction, shutting all else out? Are we affected more emotionally? I wonder sometimes if every creative soul harbours the same sense of needle in a haystack.
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Trying to explain how I get my fractals is impossible, even down to the technical stuff. All I can generally tell anyone is that I use a computer program, push some buttons or move some triangles around until I get something I like.
Fractal art is a math based art form, and I totally suck at math. If you were to give me a fractal program where I had to put the equations in myself, I'd never make diddly, I'm sure. So, talk about feeling like a needle in a haystack! Try a needle in the entire hayfield!!!
One of these days I may actually understand the entire concept better, but for now, I just do what I do and enjoy the outcome.
I'd never be able to get a job with the extremely limited knowledge that I have about the art form I use, but I'd wager that you would do better than you think, once you got going. Most people freak at having to explain things like this, when they're not sure what words to use to get their point across. Use what you would want someone to use if they were telling you about it. That usually works....and hon, don't sweat the small stuff. I have a feeling that your work will speak for itself!! :hugs:
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Actually, I have to recommend the book my teacheris using for class.. New Drawing for the Right Side of the Brain. Besides instructional exercises, this book explains how rhe brain modes, right and left, function and how the rational left likes to foil the creative process. Our verbal side is usually dominant in day to day things, but creative folk learn (Or, I think some of us do this innately) turn the left side off. I can't do math either, though last round of algebra I actually made out okay.I can't hold on to technical aspects ( bad for learning all these Adobe programs). But I can study lights, colors, tones and shades, and compose. I think my left brain is often asleep, or less in control than most folks. Really recommend the book.. it's not awfully expensive, and included some interesting bits about how people with injuries to one side or the other of their brains encountered perceptual anomolies.
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I probably have the old version of the same book (I don't think it has "new" in the title) - my mom used it when she was in art school (yeah, it runs in the family). It's a very interesting book. I saw why it felt like I was in a trance when I do art - I simply turn off my left side and really can't pay attention to logical things around me. It's neat!
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Hmmmmm....
I think that may be a place to start. But I think the best learn to retrain both parts of the brain to work together. If all you have is the left, you are just technically brilliant, but lack the intuitive flow. If all you are is right, you lose the technical skill and are sloppy and often lose a lot of the force and structure.
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Sure. it'd be good for both sides to work together. The book suggests, though, that more often the differences in expertise of either side can mean that tasks not coherent with one side basically function to bore it into submission to the other side. Our verbal side becomes the dominant side in most day to day functions, and it is this side that schools focus on almost entirely. Sadly, because of deep budget cuts here in Florida, schools are losing their art and music programs, so there goes a lot more hope for working up the creative mind, which also can be beneficial for solving problems when the logic doesn't work.
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I know that is generally accepted, but I think that is a basic fallacy of Western thought (I don't know enough about mainstream Eastern thought to comment.) We have a knee jerk need to put things into hierarchies. Rather than working to create whole brain functioning, we try to learn to switch between the two halves. One half has to be dominent. Logos or mythos.
There are some cultures that have had a better concept of multiple perceptions being able to exist simultaneously, but by the Socratic Philosophers in Greece we got stuck with a reason vs art duality. It is pretty firmly embedded in our language and expectations. So most people don't see how to let both just be and work in harmony, they think they have to choose.
A lot of our schools are facing similar cuts... the ones that haven't already cut them. Logic isn't even really te replacement. Standardized testing, bubble tests, are what is taught.
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This is an interesting discussion for me - my own particular discipline is Alchemy, and the goal of Alchemy (as it applies to human beings) is to bring the three parts of the self - rational thinking, intuitive/feelings, and physical action - into balance so that each part supports the others, without any part being subordinate.
For me, art works perfectly as training to do this -
I get some kind of feeling - some inspiration, but it has no physical form...
So I have to fit it into some kind of physical form, which involves a lot of rough drafting, evaluating, planning, changing - rational thinking...
Then I have to train my body to do the things I need to do - develop hand/eye coordination, know how to use my tools, and be fluent with them...
Of course, this is very simplified because all three things are going on at the same time, but it gives the idea. You really do do better when all three qualities are brought into allignment than you do when you rely on just one or two...
I agree with you, DebbrahF - this has been a big problem for Western thought - it wasn't always. Alchemists used to know this, but, weirdly, after they kicked off the snowball of Western civilization, Western civilization forgot what kicked it off. Alchemy was once ther predominat world view across the entire world...
It's strange. The closest analogy I can come up with is this: The collective amnesia regarding Alchemy is kind like if you had gone to college, learned important things, then completely forgot that you'd learned them in college - and couldn't even remember what college was...
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