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Re: The Creatives
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So most people don't see how to let both just be and work in harmony, they think they have to choose.
Most of the engineers that know me can't believe that I like to make art. Most of the artists that know me can't believe that I enjoy doing engineering. No one seems to see that they satisfy the same need in me - the need to create, work with my hands and problem solve. To me, they are very similar yet to most people they are the opposite ends of spectrum - logic and art.
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I can see where they meet.
Here is a secret seldom mentioned. Logic is a process. It is nothing but a process. Pure logic can prove nothing about anything outside of logic. It always has to begin with an assumption (intuition.) This is true even of math. In fact, math and science are disciplines dropped from philosophy for being too careless and sloppy.
On the other hand, what is intuition by itself? It simply is. To use it, one applies a process.
Art and engineering meet where they are craft. Where beauty and function meet and meld.
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If a scientist didn't have imagination, he/she would never make it to anything other than a lab tech. An artist without imagination is a draftsman. You're a much better engineer, TexasM, I'd bet, because you have two sides. One sided people tend to fall over a lot  .
Creativiety and imagination are really under valued - even by people who ought to know better - but they're always the thing that happens before anything else very interesting happens.
Logic is one way of organizing the creative impulse - it's linear, so it can be taught and learned. The other way is the holistic way, in which everything is understood (generally in an intuitive way) at the same time - and much harder to teach because it involves letting go of words. It's actually easier to teach a holistic thinker logic than it is to teach a logical thinker to think holisticly. But they can, and should, work together.
It's much easier to explain your thoughts linearly, but it's much easier to have them holisticly. And least for me...
It always cracks me up, DebbrahF, when I hear people commit the "Vulcan Error," believing that it's either feelings or logic - for the very reason that you pointed out. Logic works only with feelings. Without the feeling, there would be nothing a person would bother to be logical about.
Did yuou every read Poe's The Philosophy of Composition? In it, he step by step explains the "logic" used in composing The Raven.
Now, he didn't really compose it using the logic he describes (at least, I doubt he did), but the poem ends up being entirely logical none the less.
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