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Topfree Sun Tan vs. Excessive UV Exposure
I have nearly come full circle on the issue of sun tans. When I was younger I spent a lot of time wearing a bikini working on a sun tan. But as I got older I spent less and less time in the sun. Increased responsibilities, raising a family and life’s demands kept me very busy. Also during the past years much information from the medical industry has warned us about the detrimental effect of excessive sun exposure. Although the risk of sun damage is real, and there are still a lot of time pressures, I find my desire for an overall tan has returned.
Long term ultra violet (UV) exposure is of concern. Certainly a healthy approach would involve minimal exposure and sun screen application to combat the effect of UV rays. Or one could take the extreme view and avoid the sun altogether. There must be a trade-off between gaining the desired overall sun tan and protection from damage due to an overabundance of solar exposure. It is difficult to determine the location of that balance. It would be a shame to take an all out approach to a sun tan only to regret it later on due to skin damage or some other medical anomaly.
I have noticed a lot of very nice sun tans in the photos from this forum. I think tanned breasts look great! But how much is too much? How do others approach this issue?
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Re: Topfree Sun Tan vs. Excessive UV Exposure
Unfortunately, there are trade-offs. Sun exposure can cause skin cancer in light-skinned people like me. I have had thirteen skin cancers removed, all cancers of the good kind, i.e. not melanoma. Basal cell carcinomas do not metasticize and squamous cell carcinomas also do not unless neglected for a long time. The problem with not being exposed to the sun is not getting enough vitamin D, and many people do not. I think the sun danger has frequently been overstated.
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8/14/2008, 4:50 pm
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Re: Topfree Sun Tan vs. Excessive UV Exposure
Vitamin D is essential.
Build slowly to an overall tan. I start in the Spring when the sun angle is low so as to get the most exposure without burning.
30min to start building with each successive exposure. I can now be out for 3-4 hour without burning.
Also, Basal and Squamous can be removed organically without sugery.
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Re: Topfree Sun Tan vs. Excessive UV Exposure
The real key is to avoid getting burned, I've seen several people get severe burns trying to tan portions of themselves that hadn't seen the light of day before. Sunburns have both immediate and longterm undesirable consequences and no benefits. Suntans come with benefits as well as risks . . .
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8/14/2008, 6:43 pm
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Re: Topfree Sun Tan vs. Excessive UV Exposure
With Global warming, there is more danger for bad stuff happening to our skin than the past.
We love the overall tan. It is nice that neither my man nor I have tan lines. Yet we are not nearly as tan as others. When sunning, we sit under an umbrella and use sun block. We love being nude together out doors, particularly at the beach. but willing to sacrifice some color...
For the past couple of years I have been paying attention to the data base on how effective different products are in protecting us from harmful rays. see: http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/special/sunscreens2008/
Robert, with all due respect, it is not enough to simply avoid sunburn.
From a different angle - I have loved the reports that spending some time in the sun each day is great for getting needed vitamin D. Taking a short walk in the nude sounds healthy.
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Re: Topfree Sun Tan vs. Excessive UV Exposure
Hmmm, I nuke myself twice a week if possible. I have a mild all over tan. Honestly, I find my disposition suffers if I don't get the exposure. Now we have a lady at work who REALLY tans, and her skin is stretched and parchment like as a result.
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8/15/2008, 6:05 pm
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Re: Topfree Sun Tan vs. Excessive UV Exposure
I think alot of this sunburn and skin cancer stuff is perpetuated by the sunscreen companies and global warming folks because they want to scare people into either buying their products or supporting their cause in either case they benefit off of the fear and suffering of others to make a buck. Alot of this nonsense is just exaggerated. Life is too short to be constantly worrying about what the sun and the environment are going to do to you. If you spend every waking day worrying about it then youre going to miss out on the good things in life. Besides someday everyone is going to die of something, probably some kind of cancer so it really makes no sense spending your whole life trying to avoid something youre probably gonna get in the end anyways. i figure just enjoy life and when the time comes it comes and worry about it then. Im not saying some of these things areint risks but you dont want to make it a priority or let it interfere with or dominate your life.
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Re: Topfree Sun Tan vs. Excessive UV Exposure
One hasn't to forget that sunscreen is a filter.
Sufficiently applied, an SPF 10 means "scientifically" that it filters out 90% of the UV rays, and practically that one can remain 10 times longer in the sun.
And also that the tanning result is 10 times less...
The best protection is to limit the duration of the sun exposure (an average skin allows for 10 to 15 minutes when "white"), and the zero layer of sunscreen is the one that gets the most equally and sufficiently applied.
Of course, when one goes to the beach to tan, swim, play etc after driving an hour, one will not want to remain there just for 10 minutes, then drive back home. So, sunscreen is a good solution to enjoy your time. But (assuming a "10 minute skin") using an SPF 30 - reapplied perhaps every 30 min - allows to stay in the sun for 5 hours... which may be a long time - and actually may also be 5 hours on each side when just laying).
Using an SPF 30 and staying there for 2 hours is not just a waste of expensive sunscreen: it also means that the tanning effect is only that of staying 4 minutes withour screen.
And as the time one can go unprotected grows with the quantity of tanning, the natural protection gets also slower.
Also, as a sunscreen can never been perfectly applied, there will always be small zones where the protection is insuffcient, and which may burn.
When one's key resource is time, but sunning home regularly is a possibility, sunning 10 minutes a day without sunscreen is the best option. And the natural protection at vacation/beach time will be quite significant.
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Re: Topfree Sun Tan vs. Excessive UV Exposure
I'm reminded of the Clint Eastwood movie The Eiger Sanction. In it they are climbing the Eiger, a dangerous mountain in Europe. They are crossing a steep snow field when things really start to go wrong for them. Eastwood hurries across the snow to a German climber who's having difficulty. "Don't worry" he tells him. "We'll get out of this." The German guy replies with a classic line:
"I don't think so, but we shall continue with style!"
That's how I feel about life.
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Re: Topfree Sun Tan vs. Excessive UV Exposure
Skin pigment makes all the difference in the world as well. If at the height of day (1 PM during daylight savings time) I am unprotected and outside and there are no clouds for 20 minutes, I will burn, With clouds, it takes about 30 minutes.
Of course, tanning also may defeat the purpose. It seems that a principal attraction of female redheads is their pale skin, and perhaps lots of light freckles (I don't think lots of dark freckles is generally considered attractive). Also, but I don't really know this because I've seen few examples of nude redheads except me (give me a break, we are 2 percent of the U.S. population ), it seems to me that redheads also typically lack pigmentation on their areolas and that also can be a turn-on to some. Tanning darkens your areolas along with everything else.
I do enjoy sunbathing and especially nude, but not with the express purpose of getting a tan; I just love the warm sun all over my body. I like a light tan, just to the pont where you can tell I tan nude. SPF 30 is the bare minimum I'll use; 50 or higher is usually preferred just because the costs of having too little protection is so high and it will produce the very light tan that will offset attractively really pale skin with the red hair, blue eyes, and pink nipples.
If you're worried about missing coverage, the solution that almost never fails is to have someone else put it on for you. My husband is a very willing volunteer and he makes sure it is slathered on very thickly and thoroughly and does not hesitate to reapply regularly if we are out for awhile. From the time and effort he devotes to the task, when applying he appears especially concerned about burns to my boobs.
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