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Date Registered: 07-2006
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Hi i've also noticed the exy is hardest to change gears from first to second as you said a notchy feeling, also has anyone noticed that when you put in the clutch the revs increase slightly before decreasing?? i didn't really pay any attention to the gear shift till my dad had a drive and mentioned it (he is an interstate truck driver so i'm guessing that he'd know)

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Date Registered: 09-2005
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To anyone expecting to get a new gear box from nissan for this problem........don`t hold your breath. I had the exact same problem as everyone else, notchy, slight crunch between 1st and 2nd and 3rd and 2nd.
This was after nissan fixed the original problem of a seized dual mass flywheel. Took it back to them and the changed the syncro on second. Got the car back still the same problem, took it back again. They got a rep out from Nissan Australia Technical department and him and the service manager drove the car, said they drove the car for 45mins and tried to tell me nothing was wrong. I demanded that they get the rep back out and take me and my mechanic for a drive. When this happened low and behold not even 5mins down the road we encountered the problem. So then they decided to replace the linkages and cables. The problem is still there but not as bad as it was, and now only seems to happen when it`s cold. But you would have buckleys in gettin a new box out of them, as thas what I was asking for. And after NISSAN having my car for 3 months I`m still not happy and still don`t have a new box.

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Date Registered: 03-2006
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I noticed the same problem when I got my Exie 9 months ago, I was concerned with the crunching from 1st to 2nd and enquired about it, the dealer said it would wear out in time. I've done 10K and the crunching is hardly noticable, not sure if I've got used to it or it's worn out. I've had a few mates drive it and neither of them have noticed it. It doesn't really concern me as I drive it like a grandpa 95% of the time, I'm taking it in for a service next week so I'll bring it up and see what they say.

I'll keep you posted if anything eventuates from it.
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Date Registered: 09-2006
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Big Rig wrote:has anyone noticed that when you put in the clutch the revs increase slightly before decreasing??



This has been bugging me a bit since I bought mine a couple months back. I've put it down to a lag in the electronic throttle control.

I'm not sure if it's a problem at all, but it's certainly not what I'm used to from driving any other manual vehicle. The only way to avoid it is to change your driving habits - back off the throttle before engaging the clutch.

np - I have not noticed any gear change crunches. However, before the X I was driving a terribly clunky XF ute which would crunch in every gear!
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Hello everybody.
 I have just bought two weeks ago a 2003 X-trail 2.2 dci sport, with manual gear box. It`s done 34K miles and I also have the notchy change between second and third gears. I crunched third a couple of times, before I remembered to make sure the gear had engaged properly before letting the clutch out. I`m getting used to it now and it drives lovely.

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Hey guys,
I just bought a 2005 Nissan X-Trail on thursday that has done 59K.

I am very worried about a crunching sound when i shift from 1st to 2nd gear and to a lesser degree from 2nd to 3rd gear.

Can this be a worn syncrho, or air in clutch fluid or is it normal?

The car has a 3months/5000km warranty ...what should I do?

Thanks in advance
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Mark

I would take it back asap if anything doesn't sound right or do what it is sopposed to do.

My sugestion would be to get the NRMA to give it a once over inspection, sure it will cost up to a couple of hundred, but they may also find a lot more to be fixed on the Exy. Then everything can be fixed at the one time.

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Hi Mark,

Reading the other posts here I would suggest you collect all the different possibilities (gear cables and linkages, second gear synchro) and take it back to the dealer to check.
Atleast you will have it on the service record so that if it is not fixed within the 3 months then it will be seen as a problem from the start and so more likely to be repaired as part of the 3 month warranty even if done in 6 months.

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Date Registered: 12-2008
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In response to Rich in the introduction thread, I bought the car from a Nissan dealer in Concord and i got an independent inspection with a company called State Roads (unforuntateny NRMA does not to mobile inspections anymore). The inspector said that the gearbox and clutch was fine but ofcourse they do not strip the gearbox to check.

I took the car to a transmission specialist today just for an opinion. He drove it and said that the gearbox is fine, just a bit hard to change and recommended changing the gearbox oil.
He changed the oil and found that there were NO metal shavings in the oil ..so my question is, can you have no metal shavings but still have a problem with the syncrho or other gearbox problems? The man at the mechanic also said that if it was a syncrho problem then the grinding would ALWAYS occur, which it doesnt.

The oil used was Valvoline duragear 75W-85. There is no more crunching from 2nd to 3rd and from 1st to 2nd is a little better but still slightly there at times.
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Date Registered: 06-2008
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Grinding noises do not necesarily mean that a syncro is gone, or even metal filings in the oil.

One very common cause of noise is roller bearing (needle bearing) failure.

They fit on either side of the syncros and are only small, but if they begin to perish and fall appart, well the rollers and the casing can get caught in gears, syncros and whatever spins, which is just about everything.
They also start premature wear in the bushes and syncro failure.

Even still, there still may be a chance that these too can get caught on the drain magnet like everything else.
Tony

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